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    Quote Originally Posted by thebev View Post
    Yes :-)

    *adds words so that post can be posted*
    There we have it.

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    Exorcist I have to disagree with your post about parents not nurturing opinions in their young. In an ideal world this should be true but Marxists run the schools and the curriculum, and also they run the media like the BBC. Children are bombarded with Marxist/PC propaganda on a daily basis. I, as a parent, have to balance what they hear with the truth. In my sons school he has covered, in different subjects, Anne Franks Diary (drama), the Holocaust (History), To Kill a Mocking Bird (eng lit) etc etc. and so it goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven View Post
    In my sons school he has covered, in different subjects, Anne Franks Diary (drama), the Holocaust (History), To Kill a Mocking Bird (eng lit) etc etc. and so it goes on.
    I bet the phrase "BNP" was often entwined with the preachings.
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    I can't be bothered to go through the whole 11 pages but this Kieran is in fact the youth officer of the National Front.

    National Front website: Channel Four is soon to feature a documentary \"Young, Angry and White\" featuring the YNF Organiser. They follow his quest through the BNP's highly unfortunate dropping of principles to his arrival in the no-nonsense White Nationalist, National Front. The following is from the Channel Four site
    Liberal Conspiracy Channel 4 fails to reveal origins of NF racist
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    Having seen it I thought he came across well but how could he end up joining The National Front ???????????
    A society that gives up a little freedom for a little security deserve neither and will lose both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven View Post
    Exorcist I have to disagree with your post about parents not nurturing opinions in their young. In an ideal world this should be true but Marxists run the schools and the curriculum, and also they run the media like the BBC. Children are bombarded with Marxist/PC propaganda on a daily basis. I, as a parent, have to balance what they hear with the truth. In my sons school he has covered, in different subjects, Anne Franks Diary (drama), the Holocaust (History), To Kill a Mocking Bird (eng lit) etc etc. and so it goes on.
    I think you misunderstand what I said. I was saying they should not nurture "wrong" opinions and I am in complete agreement with you regarding the Marxist/PC propaganda children are being subjected to in schools. The problem is many parents are also falling for it. As a parent you are doing a great job in explaining to your kids how wrong it is and instilling "old fashioned" values in them.
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    Just watched the programme.
    I thought the lad came across ok, if not a little to extreme for my liking.

    I hate how the media blame Nationalism on broken marriages. I'm a nationalist and my parents stuck together till I was 5 yr old [wink]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exorcist View Post
    This answer to your post is given in a general sense and is not intended to apply to Kieren or his family as I am not privy to his or his families circumstances, neither do I wish to be.
    I am totally against the practice of the media to lay bare the private lives of families. I detest even more the likes of Kilroy Silk, Jerry Springer and others who stretch this programme genre to the worst extremes and make a living out of it. I also think that families who willingly co-operate with this sort of thing should be deeply ashamed of themselves. .


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    Parents should not encourage their children's opinions if they are wrong. Neither should they encourage them in their right to say them. A parent's DUTY is in fact NOT to nurture such opinions in their offspring, but to lay the law down and nip them in the bud right away, a point you appear to miss. Supposing a child or adolescent's opinion was that they should be allowed to spend their pocket money on drugs would you defend their right to say it?

    On this point, I have to agree if a child has an opinion that is clearly wrong then it would be wise to discourage that. If a child tells you that the sky is yellow and the grass is blue then clearly that is wrong. This young adult, in his opinion only wants Britain to be largely British in culture nothing more - I can not discourage this and nor should I - even though I am happy with multi culturalism as it is at present!

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    Advantageous to children? This is completely false. The break up of the family is the most psychologically damaging and heart breaking event that children can suffer. This is sometimes the result of a weak man but, more usually the unchecked behaviour of a termagant or “out of control” woman. The Cultural Marxists who were responsible for “liberalisation” of the divorce laws knew very well that this would bring about the destruction of the family and the social malaise that we are witnessing in these times.

    This is outrageous - What you are saying is that women should be obedient to their "master" - This is a very Islamic principal - perhaps we really do have too much Muslim influence here?? I can see the femenists baying for you already. Im pretty sure the divorce laws were about allowing people - men and women to extricate themselves from difficult marriages.
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    It is not the job of a grandfather to be the “strong male role model”. It is that of the father. How can either of them carry out this role when they are absent from the every day life of the family? ]

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    I did not say this. What I actually said was:

    “I feel for the him. He comes across as an articulate, decent lad from a broken home without a strong father to influence him and put him right on certain things.”

    I actually agree with much of what he says about the state of Britain today.

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    I think he should have been influenced away from certain actions he has been allowed to take, not necessarily his views. As to how this should be done I’ve already covered this in 1) and this parental authority should be imposed at the earliest age.

    Unfortunately - I cant agree - he was taught decent boundaries from an early age - thats precisely why he is not in trouble with the law or drugs and can form an articulate argument at such a tender age. Raising children is not about grinding them into submission but encouraging them to be decent upstanding members of society and standing up for their democratic rights.

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    If you insert “responsibility” for “liability” in the above statement the answer is, almost without exception, YES.
    “Give me the child and I will show you the man”.

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    I have already said that I think he is a decent lad.

    I think you should have a look at the posts Baron von Lotsov makes on the
    “Wayward Women Furious at being told to Submit to their Husbands” thread
    regarding the breakdown of the family. He is right. I intend to make a contribution in support of these views in the near future which may upset some people but the truth often does this.

    Good luck with that!!

    I have put my answers inside the quote - sorry if its confusing!!

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