Thread: The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) speaks out against the BNP...

Hmmm... If they don't like our politics they could always emigrate!

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08 Jun 2009

MCB ALARMED OVER NEO-NAZI VICTORY

The election of the far right challenges our British values

The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) today joined other British people in voicing their alarm and concern as the British National Party (BNP) gained its first two seats in the European parliament. This is a party that has a history of whipping up hatred against black people, Asians, Jews, Muslims and immigrants and has described Islam as 'a vicious, wicked faith'.

Unlike other European countries, the UK prided itself in refusing to send MEPs who belonged to the far-right. Today we have reached a sad and historic milestone where we can no longer claim that racism has no place on our political landscape.

Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, Secretary-General of the Muslim Council of Britain said "This is a sad day for British politics. The news of the election of far-right MEPs comes at a time when we mark the 65th anniversary of D-Day, celebrating the heroism of those who fought the same hatred and fascism and racism we are witnessing today".

"They now have a platform and taxpayer resources to perpetuate hate. They now have the ability to join racists and fascists in continental Europe to create a coalition of racists and Islamophobes. I call on all mainstream parties, and all British people, Muslims included, to come together to ensure we challenge the far right. We must ensure that this is a mere blip, and not a milestone, in British politics"

[ENDS]

For further information please contact the MCB:
The Muslim Council of Britain,
PO Box 57330,
London,
E1 2WJ
Tel: 0845 26 26 786
Fax: 0207 247 7079
media@mcb.org.uk

Well the Muslims should know about hate -after all they do enough of it themselves.

An interview with Troy Southgate

Is it likely, do you feel, that the UK will, in the next few decades, lose territory to Islam (with government collusion in this) and that there will be an armed struggle during this process?

Yes, I do believe that racial conflict is inevitable in many parts of the country. But I don’t believe the government will help the Muslims in any way. In fact the only type of Islam that the government here respects or favours is the watered-down, liberal version such as that fronted by the Muslim Council of Britain. The British Establishment does not tolerate religious ‘extremism’ of any kind, so has its own court imams, rabbis and priests. These are often ecumenicalist and have a strong multi-faith agenda that concords with the objectives of the existing multi-cultural society that we live in. But I do believe that as the British State weakens, ‘fundamentalist’ Muslims themselves will seize power in certain areas. The State believes that it can still eradicate traditional Islamic communities by indoctrinating their children with Americanised values, but its running out of time. Personally, my view is that Islamic groups and communities will be assisted by the worsening economic situation. They already have their own banking, trading and educational structures.

Originally Posted by Quintrix

An interview with Troy Southgate

Is it likely, do you feel, that the UK will, in the next few decades, lose territory to Islam (with government collusion in this) and that there will be an armed struggle during this process?

Yes, I do believe that racial conflict is inevitable in many parts of the country. But I don’t believe the government will help the Muslims in any way. In fact the only type of Islam that the government here respects or favours is the watered-down, liberal version such as that fronted by the Muslim Council of Britain. The British Establishment does not tolerate religious ‘extremism’ of any kind, so has its own court imams, rabbis and priests. These are often ecumenicalist and have a strong multi-faith agenda that concords with the objectives of the existing multi-cultural society that we live in. But I do believe that as the British State weakens, ‘fundamentalist’ Muslims themselves will seize power in certain areas. The State believes that it can still eradicate traditional Islamic communities by indoctrinating their children with Americanised values, but its running out of time. Personally, my view is that Islamic groups and communities will be assisted by the worsening economic situation. They already have their own banking, trading and educational structures.

This is a very interesting account which has a lot of merit in its reasoning.

Originally Posted by Vortex

This is a very interesting account which has a lot of merit in its reasoning.

The MCB are an outpost of the establishment.

Originally Posted by Quintrix

An interview with Troy Southgate

"In fact the only type of Islam that the government here respects or favours is the watered-down, liberal version such as that fronted by the Muslim Council of Britain."

That interview is dated 13/01/09. Things have moved on since then...

GOVERNMENT SUSPENDS LINKS WITH MUSLIM COUNCIL OF BRITAIN OVER GAZA - By Vikram Dodd. The Guardian, 23/03/09.

"The council's deputy secretary-general, Daud Abdullah, signed a declaration last month that the government and critics of the MCB have interpreted as calling for violence against Israel and condoning attacks on British troops." [My emphasis - Darren]

BTW, here's some more dirt I've dug up on the 'moderate' and 'liberal' Muslim Council of Britain...

MUSLIM COUNCIL OF BRITAIN BOYCOTTS HOLOCAUST DAY - By Hélène Mulholland. The Guardian, 26/01/09.

"The Muslim Council of Britain boycotted yesterday's national Holocaust Memorial Day commemoration in protest at the Israeli offensive in Gaza this month."

Then we've got this...

RADICAL LINKS OF UK'S 'MODERATE' MUSLIM GROUP - By Martin Bright. The Observer, 14/08/05

"The Muslim Council of Britain has been courted by the government and lauded by the Foreign Office but critics tell a different and more disturbing story."

And finally this...

MCB WATCH - Monitoring and Critiquing the Muslim Council of Britain

"An occasional blog, monitoring and commenting on the output of the Muslim Council of Britain. Although the MCB claims to be the voice of moderate Islam in the UK, there are many problems with this and it is our thesis that their moderate credentials are severely questionable."

So,who's going to blink first then?

The tensions between Israel and Palestine are the only major tensions between the MCB and the establishment. On domestic issues they are usually in bed with each other. I have received anecdotal evidence that the MCB has a Pakistani bias and fails to represent white Muslims due to heavily focusing on issues of race or culture more than religion.

Originally Posted by Quintrix

The tensions between Israel and Palestine are the only major tensions between the MCB and the establishment. On domestic issues they are usually in bed with each other. I have received anecdotal evidence that the MCB has a Pakistani bias and fails to represent white Muslims due to heavily focusing on issues of race or culture more than religion.

If you ask me, The Muslim Council of Britain should be abolished!

They are the enemy within...

Melanie Phillips's Diary. January 13, 2005.

This afternoon, I attended a meeting called by organisations supporting the government's proposed new law against incitement to religious hatred, which I believe threatens to suppress legitimate debate and criminalise people for simply telling the truth. Lined up in support of this bill were the Commission for Racial Equality, the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO), Justice, the British Humanist Association and the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB). Interestingly, they were very much on the defensive, as they felt that the attack on the bill, mounted by the comedian Rowan Atkinson and many others on the grounds that it would criminalise legitimate speech, had already done serious damage to the government's case.

Their arguments ranged from the confused to the disingenuous to the alarming. Confused, because even they couldn't agree with each other about what the bill meant or how it would work. Disingenuous, because they argued that the only reason people feared that the bill would criminalise insult and the giving of offence was because the blasphemy law -- which only protects Christians -- was still on the statute book.

Not only was this a non sequitur, but it ignored the real reasons why people have this anxiety -- some of which were promptly illustrated by some alarming comments that were made. For example, Robert Beckley, the ACPO faith officer, related how he had once wanted to launch a prosecution against people who had argued that Hindus and Muslims in Britain would enact a re-run of the violent Ayodhya dispute in northern India, but had been told he could not do so because the issue was religious rather than race hatred (which is covered by the present law). So now we know what kind of remark the police think they will now be able to prosecute on the grounds that it incites religious hatred.

Then I asked Iqbal Sacranie, general secretary of the MCB, whether he thought that any public statements about Islamic terrorism, or any speculation about the number of Muslims in Britain who might support Islamic terrorism, would constitute incitement to religious hatred. He said: 'There is no such thing as an Islamic terrorist. This is deeply offensive. Saying Muslims are terrorists would be covered by this provision'.

"So now we know what the MCB wants to prosecute under this proposed new law.

There was much emphasis that the aim was not to bring prosecutions. The aim was to change the climate and prevent such sentiments from being uttered in the first place. The result will undoubtedly be intimidation, self-censorship and grossly curtailed public debate. If this bill's supporters think they have allayed anxiety about this measure, they must be living on a different planet.

If that doesn't incite hatred against Martians.