Tony Bennett

2. Write to a Lord

CREC, the Campaign for a Referendum on the European Constitution, is writing to every member of the House of Lords, urging them to support an amendment to the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution Bill which would allow the British people a referendum on its terms.

CREC is asking the British public to write NOW to a Lord. We suggest you visit the House of Lords website:

UK Parliament - Contacting a Lord

and choose a Lord or Bishop with the same initial letter as your surname.

To help you write your letter, here are 9 key reasons why the Lords should allow the British people a referendum. Our full letter...

(e-mail ajsbennett@btinternet.com for a copy)

...expands on each of the 9 reasons.

The Second Reading of the Bill in the House of Lords is on 1 April. The motion for a referendum will be put some time during April. Please write NOW.

9 Reasons why the Lords should give us a referendum

(1) The provisions of the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution are virtually the same as those of the rejected European Constitution

(2) To pass off the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution as different from the European Constitution is a deceit by the leaders of Europe

(3) The Lisbon Treaty/Constitution in its previous form of the European Constitution was rejected by the French and the Dutch

(4) There is the clearest possible evidence that the British people want a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution

(5) To allow the British people a vote on this very important Treaty for the future of our nation would help to restore people’s faith in Parliament

(6) The British people have had no direct vote on the European issue since 1975

(7) The three main political parties, including of course the governing party, made clear, unequivocal promises in their respective election manifestos to give the British people a referendum on the European Constitution or any similar Treaty

(8) In June this year, the Irish government is allowing its people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution. If Parliament does not allow the British people to vote on this Treaty, we will be seen to be less democratic than the Irish

(9) Finally, the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution gives power to European institutions to remove further powers from national Parliaments without their consent.

CREC website: Campaign for a Referendum on the European Constitution

Number of purple postcards already distributed: 175,100 in just 86 days of campaigning

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Hartlepool

Tony,I would have thought that point number one would be replaced by point number nine in your list.

Surely,this should be the opening address to the British Lords which are from all corners of the political and non political sphere?

I and a few others of my group will be doing as you suggest though,later on today.

Geoffrey Collier

The worst effects of point number nine could be mitigated, to some extent,
by re-inserting into the Bill, the Cash Amendment concerning the, 'Sovereignty of Parliament', clause. What is the best argument you know, not to do so?

Hartlepool

But its not inserted GC,is it?

Hartlepool

Our MPs from all three main parties have ably demonstrated that it matters not a fig what is or is not written down concerning the protection of our country and its people.

Our Parliament is already sovereign and must remain so and not inserted into another document were it can be inclusively removed or altered in the future,by anyone but the people.

Tony Bennett

Hartlepol,

The letter has not been finalised for printing. I had thought of introducing point nine by saying 'Last but not least', or 'Last, but perhaps most important of all'. We could yet put it at the top. If you would like to comment on our full draft letter, please pm or e-mail me at ajsbennett@btinternet.com

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Tony Bennett

Hartlepool wrote:

"Our Parliament is already sovereign and must remain so..."

Hmmm.

De jure, yes.

But de facto?

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Hartlepool

At the moment,I will continue with the thought and belief that we are still a Sovereign Parliament,this is because we have too many of our politicians intent on rendering the country and it's peoples down to being only European Unionists, and nothing else.

The Mao/Communist idea that the constant repetition of something will make the mass of people believe such repetitions in the end is not a belief that I prefer to follow.

Geoffrey Collier

HARTLEPOOL: Don't despair. There is no reason why the Cash Amendment cannot be re-instated in the HoL's . On that occasion, the tories will have no excuse not to support it: in the Lords, they have a majority. What game are the Conservatives playing? What excuse have they for not supporting the 'Sovereignty of Parliament', clause in the Commons en masse?

Having got us into this mess, they show no inclination to get us out, despite all their histrionics and protestations. Trust only on the basis of evidence, not promises.

Tony Bennett

Geoffrey Collier wrote that the Conservatives in the Lords have a majority.

I think at this point it would be as well to pause and consider this article by a UKIP member which is in the current edition of 'eurofacts'. Not that it deters us in CREC in any way from our mission to put the arguments for granting us a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution before every member of the House of Lords:

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Constitution: Can the Lords come to the rescue?

The Parliamentary arithmetic is daunting, but the goal of winning a referendum may not be beyond reach.

By David Willoughby de Broke

‘eurofacts’ - 7TH MARCH 2008

The Government is taking no chances with the Constitutional Treaty - sorry, Reform Treaty - in the House of Commons.

The Speaker, 'Air-miles' Martin, has bizarrely ruled ‘out of order' an amendment which could have led to the requirement referendum to be held before the Treaty could be ratified. The promised twenty-five full days of debate have been cut to twelve, organised into so-called themes to avoid the embarrassing line-by-line scrutiny of a treaty that will fundamentally and finally tilt the balance of power away from the nation states to the unelected Eurocracy in Brussels.

It could have been "embarrassing" because some MPs might have felt obliged to ask themselves whether they can realistically justify their £200,000 remuneration and pension package once the dirty deed is done. With immigration, trade, foreign. policy, economic policy, agriculture and fisheries no longer being decided in Westminster but in Brussels our Parliament will now enjoy a purely consultative role; MPs and peers will earn their salaries and expenses being compliant rubber stamps for EU legislation, whether or not they agree with it - it won't really matter; they won't really matter.

So we can assume that the Reform Treaty Bill will clear the Commons with shameful ease. The battle then moves to the Lords, possibly as early as mid/late March where the prospects for a referendum amendment may seem brighter - but are they?

For the avoidance of doubt it should be made clear that neither the Commons nor the Lords has the power to change a single word in the Treaty itself - so much for the Government's empty claim that the Treaty will be subject to Parliamentary "scrutiny". In this context "scrutiny" means "debate it if you must but forget changing it". Parliament may only amend the implementing Bill, the European Union (Amendment) Bill. In theory Parliament could vote the whole Bill down; end of story, but in practice that is not going to happen.

So the hopes of those who oppose the Treaty rest on a suitable amendment being tabled in the Lords and then won in the voting lobbies. Everyone's favourite here is a "referendum amendment" which would stipulate that the Treaty would not come into force unless it has been put to the people of Britain in a referendum. It is certain that such an amendment will be tabled by the Conservatives or by an alliance of like-minded peers.

It is less certain that such an amendment would be carried. Let's look at the maths. There are 217 Labour peers, 202 Conservative peers, 201 Crossbenchers, 78 LibDems, plus 26 Bishops and 14 "others" (convicts past and present Lord Archer and Lord Black, a Green, two UKIP peers and assorted disaffects who do not wish to join the crossbenches).

Serious Slippage

The LibDems, true to form, have reneged on their own manifesto pledge to hold a referendum on Not the Constitutional Treaty. Indeed, Lord McNally, their leader in the Lords ' has formally notified the House that the LibDems will be voting with the Government benches against any such amendment.

That gives the Government a notional total of 295 votes. Allowing for slippage of peers who are sickened enough by the breach of promise to abstain or stay away and even a very few who may support a referendum amendment we are likely to be left with say 275 solid Government votes.

Turning to the Conservatives, their 202 votes will also be subject to serious slippage; think the three H's (Hurd, Howe, Heseltine), the ex-MEPs, the Commissioners - who could be liable to lose their fur-lined pensions if they act against the interests of the EU - members of the various EU quangocracies like the Committee of the Regions and Regional Assemblies as well as the "let's not frighten the horses" school.

Let's say the Conservatives could count on 175 votes. We can expect most of "the Others" to vote with the Conservatives. The position of the Bishops is unclear; that leaves the Conservatives 90 votes behind the Government at the start line.

So to the Crossbenchers, two hundred of them. O-level maths shows that the pro-referendum group will need to get the votes of one hundred and fifty of those two hundred crossbenchers to carry the day. That is what Ministers like to call a "challenging" target, bearing in mind that the cross?benches are the retirement home for a number of ex-heads of QUANGOs or public bodies who owe their position to the Government.

If a referendum amendment is to be carried in the Lords it will need to be led by respected members of each party, plus a similarly respected crossbencher. They will have to be organised, hold regular meetings to decide what amendments to table and at what stage; who is to table them and speak to them; to get and keep the press informed and onside. It will still be a bit of a long-shot, but not out of reach.

What is deeply depressing is that even if the referendum vote is carried, assuming the Commons does not overturn it, and the Treaty is rejected by the electorate, we will still be where we are now, with the EU making the majority of our law, pressing ahead with all the elements contained in the Constitution - as they have done in spite of the French and Dutch votes. We will still be inexorably sucked deeper into the EU quicksand. Perhaps that is too pessimistic; perhaps a "NO" vote in the referendum will spur our two main political parties to re-think our relationship with the EU.

And perhaps Mohammed Fayed is telling the truth...

[The author sits in the Lords as a member of UKIP]

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