kernow

I had the same thought!

Hartlepool

Yes kernow,point 9 is a good opener I think,but,it will all need a good coat of close scrutiny before being finalised I'm sure.

All points on the list are relevant and admirable as well as being pertinent to what they address.

Bluemerle

I wrote to my MP about the Cash amendment to Clause 9, asking him why he didn't support it, and a friend did the same. The reply I got was:-

"I have to say that I do not think that Bill Cash’s amendment provides an adequate solution. I am, however, in discussion with him about this".

The reply my friend got was:-

"I am afraid that I don’t think that Bill Cash’s amendment represents anything like an effective legislative solution".

ranter

You should write again,something along the lines of,,,,


I do not think you represent or ever will be the solution to the mess that we find ourselves in at this time.The most effective legistalive solution to our problem is for you f### off and make room for somebody who will do a proper job of representing the people of this country and whos first priority is not of how much cr4p I can get away with while shafting the popualation

Millennium3

That should do it!

jgrabham

This idea is as pointless as a blunt pencil.

Remember... fox hunting ban... bypassed the house of Lords...

Am I ringing any bells?

__________________
Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... f**k with us.

Proudly increasing my CO2 output since 2007

"I'd have no desire to penalize a man because he's worthonly fifteen dollars a week. But I'll be damned if I can see why a man worth
forty must be penalized - and penalized in favor of the one who's less
competent."
- Ayn Rand

Tony Bennett

jgrabham wrote:

"This idea is as pointless as a blunt pencil".

REPLY: Isn't that what they use in the ballot box, cornerstone of our democracy?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

aarable

'This idea is as pointless as a blunt pencil.'

Quite right, how about:



Recent letter’s columns have been mainly dedicated to stating the obvious, that voting UKIP would cause the Conservatives to lose seats and maybe the election.

Christina Speight, in urging a vote for the Conservatives, is realistic enough to acknowledge that this course, even if it returned a Conservative government, offers but ‘faint hope’ 9of halting the integration process), let alone recovering lost sovereignty and democracy.

I have letters from several MPs, including David Cameron and William Hague on the subject of a retrospective referendum on the Lisbon Treaty should their party gain power. Although words of comfort are offered, there’s no guarantee that such a referendum would be held – this is consistent with their public statements. I don’t believe for a moment this position will change.

The blindingly obvious has to be recognized, that Conservatives have whipped all treaties and acts through parliament when in government, as have Labour – there is but a cigarette paper’s difference between the two on Europe. Successful betting at the races is all about studying form. On this score, the Conservatives are no hopers. So what’s to do?

There is a third option not involving the hope of a UKIP government, and that is to initiate a Conservative split. A fourth election defeat would surely lead to that. We could then expect the see a true and strong Conservative party emerge, probably through merger with UKIP. It would be dedicated to negotiating an arrangement that people thought they had voted for in 1975.

That should be the strategy.

Aardvark

Thinking of rejoining the Tories are you aarable?

__________________
When in Woking do as the Wokes do.

"I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

Millennium3

Surely this is the tactic that the UKIP has being employing for some time - to oblige the Tories to be the party to take us out of the EU or to split them.

It certainly is true that by doing this UKIP has helped Labour to more than a decade in power - I suspect that the public now want a change and it would be for the good of the country that a party, not tainted with so much failure, took over to clear up some of the mess.

UKIP, by its insistence on being a party for disenchanted Tories, has created the dilemma - if it would only view itself as the party for all of those who wish to leave the EU and have policies which have broad appeal it would not be keeping Labour in power through its success, as it would be taking votes equally from all of the big three.

This route is also likely to more rapidly achieve its goal as, if it could replace the Lib/Dems as the third largest party, more success would bring it to a point, some time, where it would hold the balance of power in a hung parliament. The cost of UKIP's support would be that our relationship with the EU was re-negotiated.