We are change Ireland attack the EU

mkpdavies · 09-03-2008, 08:55 PM

Google Video

Firefly · 09-03-2008, 09:38 PM

How could any sane person agree to this?! I'm sorry I still don't understand why and I wish someone would help me here....

mkpdavies · 09-03-2008, 09:47 PM

YouTube - Lisbon Treaty Song - Easy Come, So Easy Go

youcanhandlethetruth · 10-03-2008, 02:59 AM

Good video mk.
You won't hear any of this on Question Time or BBC1....

They simply say "Why should people be allowed to vote on the EU treaty when they don't understand it ?"
Oh we understand all right !.....

Are you asking Firefly how can politicians allow it ?

Sorry haven't got time to watch all of the video (yet) but do Ireland really have a veto against the treaty ?
Sounds unlikely but can you clarify ?
Wil they sell the Irish people and the rest of the europeans out ?
Maybe I've misunderstood...

jim h · 10-03-2008, 07:45 AM

The Irish constitution requires a referendum on any issue concerning Irish sovereignty. On previous EU issues the Irish voted no bit the politicains refused to accept their decision , rephrased the question and eventually got a yes answer.

youcanhandlethetruth · 10-03-2008, 02:14 PM

Yes I thought they were joining the EU - ok thanks Jim

paullotion · 10-03-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

YouTube - Lisbon Treaty Song - Easy Come, So Easy Go

Good video and song.

Like this one as well.

YouTube - Tribute to the Truth Movement

youcanhandlethetruth · 10-03-2008, 02:34 PM

Good one paullotion.

I'd be tempted to start a new thread with this one under the heading "Are these all conspiracy theorists ?"

PETWINA · 10-03-2008, 04:27 PM

499 MEPs voted NOT to accept the outcome of the Irish referendum.

Play dirty,bring down Bertie----and the treaty with it!
Find an English bank account for him,possibly Machester in the 90s.

Millennium3 · 10-03-2008, 06:50 PM

I surprised myself and watched the whole video at a go. It did not tell me much of what I did not already know but it is extremely watchable and appealing because it is mostly produced in a gentle conversational style.

I hope they succeed, for all our sakes, although everything is stacked against them. Perhaps the fact that they have, relatively recently, won their independence will make the Irish people more determined to retain it.

At the end was a request for people from other EU countries to join an Irish forum to give their views.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	YouTube - Lisbon Treaty Song - Easy Come, So Easy Go __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

10-03-2008, 02:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,540	Good video mk. You won't hear any of this on Question Time or BBC1.... They simply say "Why should people be allowed to vote on the EU treaty when they don't understand it ?" Oh we understand all right !..... Are you asking Firefly how can politicians allow it ? Sorry haven't got time to watch all of the video (yet) but do Ireland really have a veto against the treaty ? Sounds unlikely but can you clarify ? Wil they sell the Irish people and the rest of the europeans out ? Maybe I've misunderstood... __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK Last edited by youcanhandlethetruth; 10-03-2008 at 03:00 AM. Reason: typo

10-03-2008, 02:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,540	Yes I thought they were joining the EU - ok thanks Jim __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK

10-03-2008, 02:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,540	Good one paullotion. I'd be tempted to start a new thread with this one under the heading "Are these all conspiracy theorists ?" __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK

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09-03-2008, 09:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Firefly Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: My house Posts: 102	How could any sane person agree to this?! I'm sorry I still don't understand why and I wish someone would help me here....

10-03-2008, 07:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
jim h Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 334	The Irish constitution requires a referendum on any issue concerning Irish sovereignty. On previous EU issues the Irish voted no bit the politicains refused to accept their decision , rephrased the question and eventually got a yes answer.

10-03-2008, 04:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
PETWINA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 154	499 MEPs voted NOT to accept the outcome of the Irish referendum. Play dirty,bring down Bertie----and the treaty with it! Find an English bank account for him,possibly Machester in the 90s.

10-03-2008, 06:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,683	I surprised myself and watched the whole video at a go. It did not tell me much of what I did not already know but it is extremely watchable and appealing because it is mostly produced in a gentle conversational style. I hope they succeed, for all our sakes, although everything is stacked against them. Perhaps the fact that they have, relatively recently, won their independence will make the Irish people more determined to retain it. At the end was a request for people from other EU countries to join an Irish forum to give their views.