Jools

Anyone know why UKIP is not listed a supporter of this group?

I want a referendum

Raymond Finch

Because they don't want us.
UKIP Hampshire went to the Eastleigh launch and we were told they would not have anything to do with us because we are too extreme.

It is nothing more nor less than a Tory front.

Petrina

Thanks for pointing out why UKIP`s not listed .I suppose they did`t want the question of withdrawal to enter into the discussion which is understandable.
The rank and file Tories I talked to on the day were only too happy to have anyone on board
Pity the Trade Unionists weren`t there in force ,without them it will not be a mass movement .

Martin Harvey

As the UKIP branch chairman for Harlow, and knowing that IWR had declared itself 'cross Party', I made preparations to be involved in the campaign to promote the recent Harlow Referendum. (I had organised a very successful Parish referendum in the Harlow Constituency back in yr 2000 ?)
I attended the launch in Harlow on Feb 6th, only to be told that they did not want UKIP involved. They then proceeded to take politically correct pictures of Conservative activists complete with fat ladies and young children.
Having seen their posters and leaflets I realised that they would struggle to get a respectable result, so I decided to write a letter to the local paper promoting the campaign, and then left them to it on their own. It is plain that they do not have much campaigning experience, and Ukip should be very wary of being involved in any other IWR activities.
Martin Harvey.

Baron von Lotsov

Yes but the trade unions are all controlled by the same people; they are just wearing different hats, that's all. You will find anything truly against the system is not going to be a mass movement and that the only person really sticking up for you is you! It's just like the dissidents in the old Soviet Union, they were never a mass movement, they consisted of small groups meeting in secret and a nod here and a wink there. They were only official when the officials were out of office, before that they didn't officially exist.

People who still pretend that leaving the EU is extreme are running out of support these days. Like the old soviets, they kept pretending right up until the last moment, but no one listened. Power is what you do and if in everything you do in your life you make it as hard as possible for the EU to govern then repeat that times 60 million and we will be out before we know it.

The biggest mistake that the Proles can make is putting their power into the hands of some faceless organisation that pretends to speak for them. I'm sick of these lightweights who are too scared to be associated with people who want out of the EU. If they worry about criticism they should attack their attackers, not shy away from them. In other words they are a bunch of pussies, just like the EU diplomats are when it comes to standing up for their non-existent electorate.

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gimlet

RF

You have hit the nail on the head. I cannot now find on the IWAR webite their quote along the lines - "we need to be in the EU but reform is needed etc.... ".

Maybe they have removed some of their initial pages from the site, however they do not want to withdraw from the EU. Good spin exercise though!

Britannist

Some of the best-known members of "I want a referendum" would vote to keep the UK in the EU. One of them, I am sure, being Mrs. Gisela Stuart, the Labour MP for Birmingham-Edgbaston. Mrs. Stuart has admirably opposed first the EU Constitution and now its successor EU Constitution version 2 (EU 'Amending' Treaty). But, despite this, I think she remains in favour of the EU.

kernow

Probably because she still thinks of her Motherland! Blood is thicker than water!

Britannist

One day her country (Germany) will get fed up with the EU - just like we are. Opinion polls show that tens of millions of people in Germany don't think much of the EU despite the pro-EU propaganda put out by europhiles in Germany.

Jools

I wish I'd asked before I signed their petition.