Purple Postcard Campaign Revived By Crec !

tito · 21-02-2008, 05:50 PM

Has the Queen responded to any of the postcards? Does the palace usually reply to letters?

Tony Bennett · 21-02-2008, 06:17 PM

tito,

The Queen nor her staff answer individual postcards.

The Queen and her staff have gone on the public record to state that the Queen, when in residence, opens and reads some of her post *personally* and *every day*.

During CREC's previous 'purple postcard campaign', we received a letter from Mrs Deborah Bean, the Queen's Chief Correspondence Secretary, replying to one of ours, stating, inter alia: "The Queen has asked to be kept regularly informed of the number of cards being received".

The invitation to the CREC Committee to deliver a quantity of signed cards next week comes from Tim Rolph in the Private Secretary's Office.

Here is what it says about the Private Secretary's Office on the Queens's official website (Google 'Queen' or 'Monarchy'), I've just downloaded it:

=============

QUOTE

THE PRIVATE SECRETARY'S OFFICE

The Private Secretary's Office is responsible for supporting The Queen in her duties as Head of State.

The Private Secretary is the channel of communication between the Head of State and the Government, not only in the United Kingdom but also in the 15 other realms of which The Queen is Sovereign.

The Private Secretary informs and advises The Queen on constitutional, governmental and political matters in the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth.

He or she liaises with the Armed Forces, the Church and the many organisations of which The Queen is patron.

Other responsibilities include organising The Queen's official programme at home and overseas; liaising with the Households of other members of the Royal Family; and dealing with The Queen's official correspondence and correspondence with members of the public.

The Private Secretary prepares The Queen's speeches and messages, and his office arranges photographs and official presents, portraits and messages of congratulation.

The Private Secretary organises and co-ordinates Royal travel through the Royal Travel Office, which is administered by the Director of Royal Travel.

The Private Secretary is also the Keeper of the Royal Archives, which are responsible for filing and cataloguing the personal and official correspondence of former Sovereigns. The earliest papers date back to 1760.

The position of Private Secretary dates from the late nineteenth century, although George III and his two successors each had a private secretary for particular reasons. The Private Secretary currently has a Deputy Private Secretary and an Assistant Private Sectretary. There is always one Private Secretary on duty wherever The Queen is in residence.

The Co-ordination and Research Unit (CRU) within the Private Secretary's Office researches and plans programmes for members of the Royal Family, ensuring that invitations are given due consideration, planning special 'theme days' for The Queen (such as the recent days centred on the UK design industry and emergency services) and ensuring that full coverage of the United Kingdom is achieved in engagements.

The Private Secretary's Office receives boxes containing official papers from the main Government departments and from the Commonwealth and realms, nearly every day of the year.

Documents from these boxes are sent up to The Queen in the special red boxes in which she receives all her official papers.

Buckingham Palace Press Office is also part of the Private Secretary's Office. Dating from the reign of George III, the Press Office deals with press and broadcasting matters on behalf of The Queen and other members of the Royal Family. The Press Office also maintains the Royal web site and has a public information officer to handle information enquiries from the general public.

Ladies-in-waiting and equerries are also members of the Private Secretary's Office.

Ladies-in-waiting are appointed personally by The Queen and other female members of the Royal Family to accompany them on public engagements.

They often deal with the flowers, cards and presents which The Queen and other members of the Royal Family receive during their visits and walkabouts. They also deal with The Queen's private correspondence and reply to letters from children.

The Equerry to The Queen supports Her Majesty in her official duties and private life, as a member of a small team responsible for the detailed planning and execution of The Queen's daily programme.

The Equerry is seconded from the Armed Forces for three years, with each Service taking its turn. The Equerry wears uniform during The Queen's daytime engagements when they are in personal attendance on The Queen.

UNQUOTE

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mkpdavies · 21-02-2008, 06:48 PM

She probably uses them to wipe ones ****.

Millennium3 · 21-02-2008, 07:04 PM

As far as I am aware we are a parliamentary democracy which means that the elected government are the final authority - the HofL can reject a bill twice, but are obliged to pass it on its third reading. The requirement of the monarch's signature is probably a remnant of the time before, when the sovereign was the boss. 'Yes you can still sign new legislation - but we [HofC] will tell you what it will be'. Just a courtesy.

If the process has been improperly managed - I suspect it would be a matter for the courts.

However, the sovereign has the right to be consulted on current issues and to advise - but the PM is not obliged to heed that advice. This takes place at their regular meetings - are these still weekly? I suspect CREC will be told this.

Nevertheless the campaign is worthwhile insofar as, if she continues to get loads of cards she will no doubt inform the PM - this will give her more ammunition if she is advising a referendum - she can really nag him.

Anyone know differently?

brad12jy · 24-02-2008, 08:23 PM

how many have you sold now tony?

Tony Bennett · 24-02-2008, 08:34 PM

We have sold just over 141,000, or just over 148,000 if you include an order, awaiting confirmation, from Devon UKIP member Geoff Mudge, who has offered - over the weekend - to send out a purple postcard with each of his 7,000 catalogues, which are going out to his customers shortly.

We will be handing in cards to the Palace by arrangement at 2.30pm on Wednesday (27th) and will be there (as near as possible to Buckingham Palace) both before and after to meet any supporters.

In the morning, as it is the same day as the Mass Lobby of Parliament that the Queen's Private Secretary has chosen to invite us, we will be passing up and down the queues of those waiting to enter the House of Commons lobby and inviting those willing to do so to sign a purple postcard on the spot. We will then take them up to Buckingham Palace for 2.30pm and hand them in

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Tony Bennett · 24-02-2008, 08:44 PM

FROM THE WEBSITE OF THE PARLIAMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM:

UK Parliament - Glossary

QUOTE

"Royal Assent

Royal Assent is the Monarch's agreement to make a Bill into an Act of Parliament. The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent but nowadays this does not happen and the Royal Assent is a formality."

UNQUOTE

I think part of that statement is worth repeating, given the very grave constitutional crisis we are now in, as a result of the failure of our snouts-in-the-trough MPs to grant us the referendum *they all promised us* on whether we want to lose most of what remains of our politcal independence:

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

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***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

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***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

Did you hear that, Gordon Brown?

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tito · 24-02-2008, 08:47 PM

I've ordered a couple, no harm in trying I suppose.

mkpdavies · 24-02-2008, 09:18 PM

Quote:

***The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent***

Cue Dot Cottons in denial that their beloeved overlords could actual be *gulps* traitors in on the whole thing.

Tony Bennett · 24-02-2008, 09:29 PM

How one former monarch regarded his Coronation Oath.

George III, in 1800, verbatim:

"Where is the power on Earth to absolve me from the observance of every sentence of the [Coronation] oath, particularly the one requiring me to maintain the Protestant Reformed Religion? ...No, no, I had rather beg my bread from door to door throughout Europe, than consent to any such measure. I can give up my crown and retire from power. I can quit my palace and live in a cottage. I can lay my head on a block and lose my life, but I cannot break my oath."

I cannot break my oath...

I cannot break my oath...

I cannot break my oath...

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21-02-2008, 06:17 PM	#42 (permalink)
Tony Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 767	Private Secretary's Office tito, The Queen nor her staff answer individual postcards. The Queen and her staff have gone on the public record to state that the Queen, when in residence, opens and reads some of her post personally and every day. During CREC's previous 'purple postcard campaign', we received a letter from Mrs Deborah Bean, the Queen's Chief Correspondence Secretary, replying to one of ours, stating, inter alia: "The Queen has asked to be kept regularly informed of the number of cards being received". The invitation to the CREC Committee to deliver a quantity of signed cards next week comes from Tim Rolph in the Private Secretary's Office. Here is what it says about the Private Secretary's Office on the Queens's official website (Google 'Queen' or 'Monarchy'), I've just downloaded it: ============= QUOTE THE PRIVATE SECRETARY'S OFFICE The Private Secretary's Office is responsible for supporting The Queen in her duties as Head of State. The Private Secretary is the channel of communication between the Head of State and the Government, not only in the United Kingdom but also in the 15 other realms of which The Queen is Sovereign. The Private Secretary informs and advises The Queen on constitutional, governmental and political matters in the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. He or she liaises with the Armed Forces, the Church and the many organisations of which The Queen is patron. Other responsibilities include organising The Queen's official programme at home and overseas; liaising with the Households of other members of the Royal Family; and dealing with The Queen's official correspondence and correspondence with members of the public. The Private Secretary prepares The Queen's speeches and messages, and his office arranges photographs and official presents, portraits and messages of congratulation. The Private Secretary organises and co-ordinates Royal travel through the Royal Travel Office, which is administered by the Director of Royal Travel. The Private Secretary is also the Keeper of the Royal Archives, which are responsible for filing and cataloguing the personal and official correspondence of former Sovereigns. The earliest papers date back to 1760. The position of Private Secretary dates from the late nineteenth century, although George III and his two successors each had a private secretary for particular reasons. The Private Secretary currently has a Deputy Private Secretary and an Assistant Private Sectretary. There is always one Private Secretary on duty wherever The Queen is in residence. The Co-ordination and Research Unit (CRU) within the Private Secretary's Office researches and plans programmes for members of the Royal Family, ensuring that invitations are given due consideration, planning special 'theme days' for The Queen (such as the recent days centred on the UK design industry and emergency services) and ensuring that full coverage of the United Kingdom is achieved in engagements. The Private Secretary's Office receives boxes containing official papers from the main Government departments and from the Commonwealth and realms, nearly every day of the year. Documents from these boxes are sent up to The Queen in the special red boxes in which she receives all her official papers. Buckingham Palace Press Office is also part of the Private Secretary's Office. Dating from the reign of George III, the Press Office deals with press and broadcasting matters on behalf of The Queen and other members of the Royal Family. The Press Office also maintains the Royal web site and has a public information officer to handle information enquiries from the general public. Ladies-in-waiting and equerries are also members of the Private Secretary's Office. Ladies-in-waiting are appointed personally by The Queen and other female members of the Royal Family to accompany them on public engagements. They often deal with the flowers, cards and presents which The Queen and other members of the Royal Family receive during their visits and walkabouts. They also deal with The Queen's private correspondence and reply to letters from children. The Equerry to The Queen supports Her Majesty in her official duties and private life, as a member of a small team responsible for the detailed planning and execution of The Queen's daily programme. The Equerry is seconded from the Armed Forces for three years, with each Service taking its turn. The Equerry wears uniform during The Queen's daytime engagements when they are in personal attendance on The Queen. UNQUOTE --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

21-02-2008, 06:48 PM	#43 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	She probably uses them to wipe ones ****. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

24-02-2008, 08:23 PM	#45 (permalink)
brad12jy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 546	how many have you sold now tony? __________________ My ignore list - Tony Bennett

24-02-2008, 08:34 PM	#46 (permalink)
Tony Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 767	Over 141,000 We have sold just over 141,000, or just over 148,000 if you include an order, awaiting confirmation, from Devon UKIP member Geoff Mudge, who has offered - over the weekend - to send out a purple postcard with each of his 7,000 catalogues, which are going out to his customers shortly. We will be handing in cards to the Palace by arrangement at 2.30pm on Wednesday (27th) and will be there (as near as possible to Buckingham Palace) both before and after to meet any supporters. In the morning, as it is the same day as the Mass Lobby of Parliament that the Queen's Private Secretary has chosen to invite us, we will be passing up and down the queues of those waiting to enter the House of Commons lobby and inviting those willing to do so to sign a purple postcard on the spot. We will then take them up to Buckingham Palace for 2.30pm and hand them in -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

24-02-2008, 08:44 PM	#47 (permalink)
Tony Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 767	The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent FROM THE WEBSITE OF THE PARLIAMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM: UK Parliament - Glossary QUOTE "Royal Assent Royal Assent is the Monarch's agreement to make a Bill into an Act of Parliament. The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent but nowadays this does not happen and the Royal Assent is a formality." UNQUOTE I think part of that statement is worth repeating, given the very grave constitutional crisis we are now in, as a result of the failure of our snouts-in-the-trough MPs to grant us the referendum they all promised us on whether we want to lose most of what remains of our politcal independence: *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* *The Monarch actually has the right to refuse Royal Assent* Did you hear that, Gordon Brown? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

21-02-2008, 07:04 PM	#44 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,865	As far as I am aware we are a parliamentary democracy which means that the elected government are the final authority - the HofL can reject a bill twice, but are obliged to pass it on its third reading. The requirement of the monarch's signature is probably a remnant of the time before, when the sovereign was the boss. 'Yes you can still sign new legislation - but we [HofC] will tell you what it will be'. Just a courtesy. If the process has been improperly managed - I suspect it would be a matter for the courts. However, the sovereign has the right to be consulted on current issues and to advise - but the PM is not obliged to heed that advice. This takes place at their regular meetings - are these still weekly? I suspect CREC will be told this. Nevertheless the campaign is worthwhile insofar as, if she continues to get loads of cards she will no doubt inform the PM - this will give her more ammunition if she is advising a referendum - she can really nag him. Anyone know differently?

24-02-2008, 09:29 PM	#50 (permalink)
Tony Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 767	I cannot break my oath How one former monarch regarded his Coronation Oath. George III, in 1800, verbatim: "Where is the power on Earth to absolve me from the observance of every sentence of the [Coronation] oath, particularly the one requiring me to maintain the Protestant Reformed Religion? ...No, no, I had rather beg my bread from door to door throughout Europe, than consent to any such measure. I can give up my crown and retire from power. I can quit my palace and live in a cottage. I can lay my head on a block and lose my life, but I cannot break my oath." I cannot break my oath... I cannot break my oath... I cannot break my oath... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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