london assembly election 2008

cassie · 05-01-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

Thats a fair point that many will not be fully aware who he is, however he is recieving much publicity both locally and nationally at the moment. As you can read on London BNP website they are distributiong 20,000 leaflets at weekends. What the the EDP doing? that is my point, BNP are not relying on a name to bring them support they are putting in the work.

Also if the Lib Dems do get 7% then its very possible that a smaller party if they put the time and effort in to the GLA campaign could knock the Lib Dems into 4th place which would be a great victory over the 3rd largest party in the UK.

Impeccable logic once again!

RTSTN · 05-01-2008, 06:36 PM

I am bewildered why the ED think they will get delegates on the GLA.
How are they going to do this? By not campaigning as they are at present?
Relying on the free leaflet drop by the P.O. a few weeks before the election?
Thinking that the few percent they get in local council by election means they are on the way to GLA delegates?
Utter fantasy.

Anyway, I thought Bushell was no longer standing for the ED, or has he changed his mind?

blueblood1920 · 05-01-2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSTN

I am bewildered why the ED think they will get delegates on the GLA.
How are they going to do this? By not campaigning as they are at present?
Relying on the free leaflet drop by the P.O. a few weeks before the election?
Thinking that the few percent they get in local council by election means they are on the way to GLA delegates?
Utter fantasy.

Anyway, I thought Bushell was no longer standing for the ED, or has he changed his mind?

According to 'unofficial' sources there has been reports that he will be standing down althought the EDP havent mentioned anything about it. Maybe they will be discussing it at their EGM in feb.

blueblood1920 · 05-01-2008, 08:08 PM

I been looking around the EDP site, their london site seems to be broke, I wonder why.

Also I took a look at their Party members only download a booking form, which made me believe more that bushell has stood down.

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Meeting Agenda
Saturday 23rd February 2008
9.45 am to 10.15 Registrations.
10.30 am Welcome and Introduction: Beverley Nash
10.40 am Chairman’s Overview: Robin Tilbrook.
11.oo am Serious about England with Christine Constable and Linda Guest
11.30 am Serious about London Campaign: Andrew Constantine and Roger Cooper

11.45 am Refreshments
12.00 am Local Election Strategy: Robin Tilbrook and Steven Uncles
12.15 pm London Assembly and Local Election delegate training.

13.00 pm Lunch
13.45 pm Membership: David Lane and Ken Bennett
14.00 pm Planning an Effective Election Campaign: Brian Lee
14.40 pm Guest Speaker
15.00 pm Guest Speaker
15.20 pm Break
15.30 The Way Forward-Open Discussion on English Democrat Policy and Party Development
17.00 Close

As you can see I have highlighted things that you would expect some possible input from Bushell considering he is supposedly the Candidate for Mayor. However he doesnt seem to be on the list for some reason, the EDP seem to be fairly quiet about the whole thing as well.

Hartlepool · 06-01-2008, 10:36 AM

They're probably embarrassed,again

gc · 06-01-2008, 02:26 PM

Bushell messed us about when he offered to stand for UKIP in the 2004 mayoral election.

I hate to say "I told you so", but I did predict this turn of events.

Hartlepool · 06-01-2008, 02:47 PM

Yes,you did warn us gc.

PETWINA · 07-01-2008, 02:11 PM

I see Percy the Dog's mum Linda the ex air waitress is appearing along with former UKIP 'nit picking' stalwarts,ex Northern Irish union politico Brian Lee and Ken Bennett.I believe UKIP Essex membership has increased significantly since those pedants left

Francis · 07-01-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueblood1920

If any of the small parties are going to get seats in London it will be the Greens, BNP and Respect. I say this on the basis that they have multiple councillors in London where as I dont think UKIP or ED's have any councillors in London.

I actually see that as a possible reason why the BNP and Respect won't do very well.

A significant proportion of the BNP's support has traditionally been protest voting, and whenever they've won seats it's lead to a strong fall back, as a significant number of their votes came from people who DIDN'T want them to get in, but wanted to send a message to the other parties and so, upon seeing them elected, cease voting for them.

Also, looking at the record of elected BNP councilors, in a lot of cases they've been decidedly poor, therefore if I was a gambling man I'd suggested that a good deal of the BNP's value is already in their price, and a slide back is quite possible, and seeing as they didn't get any seats last time that would mean a high chance of getting none this time.

The main hope for the BNP is for a rise in protest votes in other areas to maybe carry them through to one seat, however they are going to be handicapped by not receiving the same level of publicity as they did when Hodge made her statements, that assisted with the B&D results, and watching the political scene the opposition clearly has plenty of ammunition, in reserve, that they can use against the BNP (self inflicted as usual).

So they might get lucky, and grab a seat from some protest voting, but I'd say at present the chances are against it.

Also, don't forget that the last time around the BNP were riding high (they scored 808,200 votes in the Euro elections in 2004 too), since then they've slipped back to their previous standings at national level (192,746 votes at the 2005 General election).

SponPlague · 07-01-2008, 02:34 PM

Respect are now "Respect" - everyone except GG, and "Respect renewed" - Miaw, Pussycat, MP himself. that won't help them...

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05-01-2008, 06:36 PM	#42 (permalink)
RTSTN Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 229	I am bewildered why the ED think they will get delegates on the GLA. How are they going to do this? By not campaigning as they are at present? Relying on the free leaflet drop by the P.O. a few weeks before the election? Thinking that the few percent they get in local council by election means they are on the way to GLA delegates? Utter fantasy. Anyway, I thought Bushell was no longer standing for the ED, or has he changed his mind?

06-01-2008, 10:36 AM	#45 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	They're probably embarrassed,again

06-01-2008, 02:26 PM	#46 (permalink)
gc Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 510	Bushell messed us about when he offered to stand for UKIP in the 2004 mayoral election. I hate to say "I told you so", but I did predict this turn of events.

06-01-2008, 02:47 PM	#47 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	Yes,you did warn us gc.

07-01-2008, 02:11 PM	#48 (permalink)
PETWINA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 155	I see Percy the Dog's mum Linda the ex air waitress is appearing along with former UKIP 'nit picking' stalwarts,ex Northern Irish union politico Brian Lee and Ken Bennett.I believe UKIP Essex membership has increased significantly since those pedants left

07-01-2008, 02:34 PM	#50 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,481	Respect are now "Respect" - everyone except GG, and "Respect renewed" - Miaw, Pussycat, MP himself. that won't help them...