london assembly election 2008

Independent UKIP · 30-12-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

I think the above posts are far too pessimistic, at least as far as the English Democrats are concerned. I am confident that we will get representation in the Assembly. There are many, many English patriots in London who wish to see both the revival of an English Parliament and withdrawal from the EU.

If by some miracle you do get persons elected to the London Assembly I trust you will commit here on this forum that having been elected on the basis of an English Parliament and withdrawal from the EU if they find it is not within the power of the London Assembly to legislate on either of those policies your representatives will resign immediately and no other EDs on the same list will take their place. I can't imagine any reason why you would not make that commitment as those 2 issues are the only reason you have suggested why Londoners should vote ED.

arden forester · 30-12-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RTSTN

The BNP will get two, outside chance of three.

Quite likely, and what will the other parties do then? Sit with them, boycott the chamber, or call for a re-run of the election?

Independent UKIP · 30-12-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

Quite likely, and what will the other parties do then? Sit with them, boycott the chamber, or call for a re-run of the election?

I could imagine them getting 1 seat, 2 or 3 is beyond comprehension in my view. The Barnbrook voters of Barking & Dagenham are a minority there for starters. They have tiny support in the likes of Westminster, Camden, Islington, Hackney, Waltham Forest, Southwark, Richmond etc etc in my opinion.

From what I have read of One London the only thing that matters in a vote there is the budget and even 3 BNP members is not going to make a difference if enough others support it.

Andrew Constantine · 31-12-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

If by some miracle you do get persons elected to the London Assembly I trust you will commit here on this forum that having been elected on the basis of an English Parliament and withdrawal from the EU if they find it is not within the power of the London Assembly to legislate on either of those policies your representatives will resign immediately and no other EDs on the same list will take their place. I can't imagine any reason why you would not make that commitment as those 2 issues are the only reason you have suggested why Londoners should vote ED.

What a load of partisan nonsense in your above quoted post!

English Democrats candidates whether for the London Assembly and our mayoral candidate Garry Bushell will have a full range of attractive, constructive and praticable policies to improve London. Our elected candidates will also use the "bully pulpit" function given them by their public office to campaign and advocate both an English Parliament and withdrawal from the EU.

Both of these two more structural policies will provide, when enacted at some future time by the Union Parliament, immense democratic and economic benefits both to all Londoners and to the other citizens of England.

cassie · 31-12-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

If by some miracle you do get persons elected to the London Assembly I trust you will commit here on this forum that having been elected on the basis of an English Parliament and withdrawal from the EU if they find it is not within the power of the London Assembly to legislate on either of those policies your representatives will resign immediately and no other EDs on the same list will take their place. I can't imagine any reason why you would not make that commitment as those 2 issues are the only reason you have suggested why Londoners should vote ED.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

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English Democrats candidates whether for the London Assembly and our mayoral candidate Garry Bushell will have a full range of attractive, constructive and praticable policies to improve London. Our elected candidates will also use the "bully pulpit" function given them by their public office to campaign and advocate both an English Parliament and withdrawal from the EU.

<SNIP>

Is not Salmond using (some would say misusing) his position in the North Britain Assembly to promote the cause of independence for Scotland. Why should elected representatives in England be singled out to be made subject to restrictions not applying elsewhere?

I think my position apropos the EDP is well established now, but it MUST be admitted that any EDP GLA Members should be entitled to campaign for a better arrangement, just as UKIP MEPs claim to be doing in the EU Parliament and elsewhere!

I hope Independent UKIP will feel able to modify his position in this particular matter?

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arden forester · 31-12-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

I could imagine them getting 1 seat, 2 or 3 is beyond comprehension in my view. The Barnbrook voters of Barking & Dagenham are a minority there for starters. They have tiny support in the likes of Westminster, Camden, Islington, Hackney, Waltham Forest, Southwark, Richmond etc etc in my opinion.

From what I have read of One London the only thing that matters in a vote there is the budget and even 3 BNP members is not going to make a difference if enough others support it.

The probability is one seat more than two or three, but the voting in London is splitting in several directions.

Respect will put up a fight, so will the Greens, English Democrats, and UKIP. But smaller parties will also take votes, including the Christian Peoples Alliance. If it were a strictly proportional contest, then we could get some idea of the oucome. If were still a contest between the Labour Party and Conservatives, similar. But we have this virtual lottery now. I know, Solihull constituency is a bit like that now.

Andrew Constantine · 31-12-2007, 03:02 PM

Cassie

Thank you for your above post and some other recent ones where I felt we are reading from the same page.

Regards

Andrew

Independent UKIP · 31-12-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Is not Salmond using (some would say misusing) his position in the North Britain Assembly to promote the cause of independence for Scotland. Why should elected representatives in England be singled out to be made subject to restrictions not applying elsewhere?

I think my position apropos the EDP is well established now, but it MUST be admitted that any EDP GLA Members should be entitled to campaign for a better arrangement, just as UKIP MEPs claim to be doing in the EU Parliament and elsewhere!

I hope Independent UKIP will feel able to modify his position in this particular matter?

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I am happy to accept that they can and should campaign for what they like but I and most people will be voting for who will best represent me/them on the London Assembly, particuarly by holding Livingstone or Johnson (or Batten) to account.

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