Maggie backs the Sun on the EU.

g hall · 04-10-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

You are right Kernow - the press can be powerful. Especially in a close election such as in 1992 (where just over 1700 votes spread across certain marginal constituencies gave the Conservatives their small overall majority).

Just over 1700 votes out of over 30 million in the ballot boxes.

The result was so close that the Sun definitely made an impact.

In the interest of democracy that is worrying

kernow · 04-10-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

In the interest of democracy that is worrying

I'd guarantee if the Sun swung in behind UKIP we would win several seats at the GE, more than if it was the Mail or Telegraph!

Britannist · 04-10-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

I'd guarantee if the Sun swung in behind UKIP we would win several seats at the General Election...

I agree - the Sun has an influence on politics.

Even if the Sun suggested that people vote UKIP in just a couple of seats where it thought UKIP could win the endorsement might be enough to persuade alot of people to vote UKIP in those constituencies.

Zak64 · 07-10-2007, 07:26 PM

I think you guys are mostly right about the influence of the MSM, Sun, Torygraph etc.

But I also think you have overlooked one aspect of the 1992 GE. That is Kinnock's disastrous performance at the Sheffield rally, a day or two before polling day.

Who could take the ranting Welsh windbag seriously after he tried and failed to do a Mick Jagger on the audence with his hysterical cries of "Well alright! Well alright!"

He just made himself look like a complete a*se! Which, granted, is not an uphill struggle if your name is Neil Kinnock!

youcanhandlethetruth · 15-10-2007, 02:41 AM

Very interesting information - I've had no idea about what you've all just revealed. Thanks to all.

david H · 16-11-2007, 04:17 AM

It was round the time murdoch had his chat with blair tht david starkey, who had a programme on talk Sport, denounced our press for trivia, and asked why they don't tell us about that meeting.

mkpdavies · 17-11-2007, 09:44 PM

Why won't Thatch just come out and say we should get out of the EU? What has she got to lose?

pentameter · 17-11-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zak Zzygote

Who could take the ranting Welsh windbag seriously after he tried and failed to do a Mick Jagger on the audence with his hysterical cries of "Well alright! Well alright!"

He just made himself look like a complete a*se! Which, granted, is not an uphill struggle if your name is Neil Kinnock!

I don't recall that, but he did feature in a ridiculous Tracey Ullman pop video with his missus, falling over on the beach. You see, politics can be fun.

I rather think that the 1992 election would have been better lost for the Tories and the ERM debacle would have happened anyway, but the 1997 defeat probably wouldn't have happened, or wouldn't have been as bad. Not that I think the Tories are anything but false friends.

kernow · 18-11-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pentameter

I don't recall that, but he did feature in a ridiculous Tracey Ullman pop video with his missus, falling over on the beach. You see, politics can be fun.

Just when you want a Tsunami to strike there's never one about!

Mikeuk · 18-11-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Why won't Thatch just come out and say we should get out of the EU? What has she got to lose?

I'm afraid she is pretty ga-ga these days.

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youcanhandlethetruth Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,582	Very interesting information - I've had no idea about what you've all just revealed. Thanks to all.

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david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,919	It was round the time murdoch had his chat with blair tht david starkey, who had a programme on talk Sport, denounced our press for trivia, and asked why they don't tell us about that meeting.