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On turning the cheek
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If a person does submit in the hope of stopping the beating then that might be the attitude of a coward, or it may not, depends on circumstances, it might be common sense.
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A coward`s charter if ever I saw one.
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On the other hand to turn the other cheek in order to show that you do not bear hatred for the person attacking you or to show that there IS another way is an act of great courage and sacrifice.
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I would bear hatred, extreme hatred and this emotion is something to be welcomed and nurtured. Hatred has served as well for countless millenia as a survival mechanim. What a pity that the indigenous peoples of Britain have been so brainwashed by the champagne bolshevists that now misrule this country that they dare not hate! Without hate they will never be roused to do something and start to resist the invasion of their country by the refuse of the world.
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Try reading and inwardly digesting “He sent His only begotten Son”
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"He" never "sent" anyone: "he" does not exist. Save your xtian brainwashing for people who care!
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Look around you. Look at our laws, our legal systems, what we recognise as good and wholesome morality, in short, what we are when you take out the toxic invaders from the east.
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Would these be the same
laws and legal systems that prevent European people from debating the holohaux and expressing dissent against the invasion of their lands by the hordes of the Third World and our slow genocide?
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That is as may be. On the other hand if it IS demeaning then maybe they deserve to be demeaned when compared with our culture today.
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Again how arrogant! You support the notion of xtianity being a superior religion and for this reason I have to question supposed atheism: it is barely skin deep.
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On the acts of butchery and torture committed by Christian men in contravention to the teachings of Christ, and what the Muslims do directly under the instruction and guidance of Mohamed[/b]
“You are obviously not familiar with the Old Testament and the savage punishments that are sanctioned by the Christian god in that part of your bible.
In the first place read Jeremiah 31:31-34.
Next the Old Covenant is constantly made appropriate to modern day for Jewish people by the Torah which adopts and adapts the interpretation of The Law, a thing that Islam can never do since it is by its own definition immutable.
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xtianity also adapted its scriptures to support widespread persecution of any kind of dissenters, whether they be "heathens", "heretics" or wise women.
xtianity has caused far more bloodletting of the Aryan peoples than islam ever had or ever will.
Furthermore its sickly precepts have acted as a poison in the blood of our people but now that xtianity is dying people are beginning to wake up.
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Islam is better called Mohammedism (though that is a highly offensive thing say to a Muslim) since it is a cult that was invented by him using a pick and mix approach taking the bits he wanted when he wanted them to construct a foundation for the ideology he was inventing.
Try reading the background to The Satanic Verses to get a better picture of the way he played fast and loose with what he wanted and how he dropped it when it no longer suited him.
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I am not here to defend islam. It is another branch of the same alien and rotten semitic tree.
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Christianity did absorb pre existing religions as it spread across the globe. It did so in order to remain relevant to people in the countries that it entered but what it did NOT do was to have the existing pagan beliefs form any part of the nature of Christianity nor use them as a goad or whip on Christians.
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Anything to win a soul and make a fast buck, eh?
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There is nothing Christian about a Christmas tree and nothing Christian about December 25th beyond being a date that by common agreement would be the day that the birth of Jesus was celebrated.
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Don`t assume that because people acknowledge Yule that this is in any way an acknowledgement of your jesus-it isn`t. The Yule festival was celebrated by various Aryan peoples before jesus was a twinkle in his teenage mother`s eye!
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Take the Old Covenant. In the Christian bible that comprises of the recorded word of God, and a whole lot more besides.
In the New Covenant most Christians do believe that it includes the words and deeds of Jesus and that the remainder is the inspired word of god, but that is NOT the fundamental message of Christianity.
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But you acknowledge that the books from Genesis to Revelation incorporate the inviolable word of the xtian
god?
The very book that calls for the extermination of witches?
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On the conference of Nicea
“And the position of the Christian churches is that the aforementioned conference was divinely inspired along with its decisions regarding which books, gospels and epistles should be included within the canon of scripture-god`s Word! “
The Conference of Nicea has nothing to do with Christian canon.
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xtians would have us think that as it would draw a huge question mark about the legitimacy of the canon of scripture. Not surprisingly you support this notion.
I suggest you peruse S.Acharya`s excellent site and study her books.
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On the essence of Christianity
“It is a religion that places no qualitative difference between the strong and the weak, the noble and the ignoble, the wise and the foolish. It debases everything that is best in this world.”
Or it raises every man to the greatest height.
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Just as their is a hierarchy in the animal kingdom so there is a hierarchy between men based on blood, strength and intelligence.
Nature does not recognise the false notion of equality.
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On the moral code of Christianity
“It is a moral code that promotes the ultimate failure in man, that promotes the mob above the noble man.
It is a moral code that is alien to the teachings and lore of the Aryan peoples.”
Which Aryan people are these, and what exactly is this “noble man”?
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The terms
Aryan and
noble are self-explanatory. I suggest that you study my blogs should you wish to seek more information or enlightenment on the issue!
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Maybe you might consider the Visigoths as personifying the Aryan people, or the Vikings maybe?
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Both these Germanic peoples were of course Aryan.
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If so it’s worth considering how Christianity moved them from murderous thieving savages to evolve into the people of today, civilised, law abiding, respectful and respected.
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Or emasculated them so that they now lack the will to resist their own biological decay!
You clearly have never studied the histories and accomplishments of these peoples or you would not have made such an uninformed comment.
Many European nations have been formed and shaped by these so-called "savages" before their unfortunate forced conversion to the xtian religion.
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On following the teachings of Jesus taking far more strength, boldness, wisdom, and by so doing presenting a beauty to the world than being a powerful brutal cunning poser
Such teachings promote the denial of the Will and the enslavement of peoples.
A people who will not literally fight for its biological survival and biological prosperity deserves to perish according to the cast iron laws of nature.
There’s no denial of will in Christianity. In fact Christianity permits free will and in addition provides a route back from mistake.
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Hardly, like islam it promotes the concept of slavery to an alien semitic
god.
Epaphras, who is [one] of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.
[Col 4:12]The New Testament is full of such talk about subjecting one`s own will to conform to the will of
God.
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Maybe it’s because the morality of the teaching and example of Jesus raises people above the cast iron laws of nature that provides the strength.
That the brute intent only on survival shatters when he hits a solid object, whereas in Christian morality the solid object will also be confronted and if wrong will, over a period of time, be worn away rather than be attacked head on.
It worked in the case of the Roman Empire.
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Man is part of nature. What makes xtianity unnatural is its constant teaching that we should seperate ourselves from nature. It seeks to place an artificial divide between man and the natural world.
The Roman Empire collapsed through a multitude of reasons. Basically it became weak and fell a prey to the stronger and more virile Germanic peoples.
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On being an atheist and the perception of Christianity.
“Perhaps you do but you need to recognise that you are drawing inspiration from a work of fiction.”
Is good and sound morality any the less because it comes from a work of fiction?
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And should people be executed for denying any aspect of a work of fiction?
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On Commentaries in general and the “Mathew Henry” in particular.
I am more than familiar with the bible having spent 17 years studying it.
Then why not look also at the work of others who have studied it?
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I have done so and see no reason to waste another 17 years vainly studying it.
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B]On the principle that Christianity invites and Islam demands.[/b]
“If you care to study the history-the bulk of Christian history it too has always demanded!”
Not so. People who followed so varying degrees the teachings of Jesus and especially churches that based themselves on Christianity frequently demanded, but that is categorically NOT the same as claiming that Christianity commands.
Islam does.
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The churches demanded and so do their scriptures!
And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
[2 Th 3:4]
The bible is replete with demands and commands!
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On trying to attain the unattainable and shooting for stars rather than remaining stuck in a bog comparing the size of ones muscles with the other reptiles!
“I see nothing noble in dying the death of a thief on a tree.”
As a sacrifice for others, I do.
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And how, oh
atheist did his death constitute "a sacrifice for others?"
Leaving that aside the issue is should one try to reach for the unattainable as at least one will go some way towards the best. I say yes.
[b]On turning the cheek being the act of a coward.[/B
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]“To what extent will you take this moral code, to the extent of allowing your wife to be raped before your eyes? To be beaten to a bloody pulp? What will make you fight Bear?
Do you not see how ridiculous and life-denying Christianity and all the Semitic religions are?”
LOL! Anyone who raped MY wife better be ready for a long period of hospitalisation being treated for frost bite! As for beating her to a pulp, you’ve obviously no idea just what a formidable woman she is!
Many a person’s looked at her and whispered “Cor! Is that ever a woman!” and not out of desire, but simply as a general question!
But to be serious, no, I would not, but then, I’m not a Christian and my guess is that most Christian people would not do so either.
But that does not mean that if she were a Christian and her husband were a Christian she would want him to intervene, especially if in so doing it placed him in jeopardy.
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Then the concept of xtianity being based upon the life and example of xrist is a sham. If you would not as a xtian permit your wife to be raped then you would be a living denial of its precepts, would you not?
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You see that is the essential element of Christianity. Self sacrificing love.
[b]I really would be interested in comments from observant Christians who might be bothered to have read these exchanges on my Atheist view of Christian principles.[/b
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Hmmm sure. You are an
atheist who studies the bible and seeks to convert others on the Internet but you are not a xtian!