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Old 21-05-2008, 04:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I think i can see where Frith is going here. Not sure however who he believes will metamorphise into the Butterly warriors (Lib Dem's?) or the Green Warriors (BNP?).

Yes there is a niche for someone promoting 'Libertarian' ideas without the 'social liberal' baggage but that is more likely to be filled by the new Libertarian or National Liberal Parties. Any attempt by the Lib Dem's to follow that route will see them split with the libertarian wing joining the others. Equally a new force is likely to embrace his 'clean' nationalism rather than the BNP (but they might split like the Lib Dem's).

In reality it's likely to be much more complicated and messy than a novel's happy ending but it nevertheless makes a change to view political development through an 'heroic' lens. Although often unrealistic such prose can be quite inspiring.
Thank you. I thought the butterfly warriors (bit Japanese that, isn't it, or Celtic ) would be a renewed liberal political ideology embracing the best of libertarian philosophy and liberal democratic government, with, as you mention, a goodbye to the socialist and social democratic alliances. And the new conservative or new new right as a form of nation-oriented civilization builders who had a lot in common with the new liberals but who saw universalism as a danger and preferred to limit globalised functions to environmental issues, world health, and disaster relief with international scientific bases in strategic areas to monitor volcanic and seismic activity and weather patterns, insect plagues and diseases, etc, as well as scan the heavens for rogue satellites and errant meteors.

The iconic picture is divine, yes, the real deal will be "messy", as you say. Humans have not yet learned the value of cooperativeness without falling into the trap of religious brotherhood. Humans haven't observed nature correctly, but once they do, things in our world may change.
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