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Originally Posted by Imperium
And you consider that inviting a man to strike you on the other cheek after he has struck you on the first one is a basis for what is best for people?
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Yes.
It sends an immediate message to the attacker that he is dealing with a thing that is bigger than both of them. For the victim it allows him to “witness for his faith”.
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But surely if a Christian were to take Jesus` alleged example seriously we would be seeing far more martyrs today? I wonder where they have all gone?
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In part the people who would have turned them into martyrs have realised that Christianity is not the threat that they themselves are, in part because many people realise that in dealing with a true Christian they are dealing with someone who is essentially a good and decent person which true Christians, in my experience are, and remember, Idiscriminate between church goers and Christians. The two are not automatically the same..
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I am not here to defend islam and no[before someone asks the ridiculous question] I am NOT David Myatt!
As far as I am concerned they are both alien semitic ideologies that have no place in Europe.
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Since European culture is based on Christian ethics and morality it would seem that claiming that Christianity has no place in Europe simply shows great ignorance about Europe.
As for Islam being a Semitic ideology, I would only agree insofar as Islam was probably invented by a man who was of that race. I do agree that it has no place in Europe and precisely because our superior culture is Christian based.
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Originally Posted by Imperium
Quote: The Bear
“As for following his teachings leading to, as you so quaintly put it, to “the exaltation of the ultimate in human failure”, what a strange and single dimension (not to mention ludicrous) thought!”
You really ought to study the New Testament! Here is a sample for you to enjoy which proves my point exactly!
1Cr 1:26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, [are called]:
1Cr 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Cr 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
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Shot yourself in the foot there.
The Scripture you quote is from Paul’s letters to the Corinthians, it is part of the Western Bible (I note you use the KJV) but is not part the teaching of Jesus.
It also shows that you have missed the message that Paul was sending.
Try looking at this site to help you in your quest for the truth as seen by Christians.
Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible [Volume Index] | Christian Classics Ethereal Library
Unless of course you’re scared that you might, on seeing the truth, see the light and convert!
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Originally Posted by Imperium
(Then) that means that the standards of Christianity are unattainable and thus foolish and of no relevant application to real life.
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Of course the standards of Christianity are unattainable!
But that doesn’t mean that a Christian person shouldn’t know what they are and shouldn’t strive towards them!
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Originally Posted by Imperium
Quote: The Bear
“I suspect that you are very young. “
Many people say that I don`t look my 47 years.
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I would add, no, on second thoughts better not. It would only result in a formal complaint!