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Old 16-05-2008, 02:16 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Name me one person in the BNP who would be a better leader than Griffin.
Griffin is obviously very intelligent, and understands the issues. However, he is also a liability. I would not think that that statement would need any evidence, nor do I wish to provide anything that hasn't already been said. His attempt to block a leadership challenge should tell everyone that he cannot be trusted with power. The BNP has an image problem, and Griffin is part of that, whether people consciously recognise it or not; it will continue to stagnate, in my opinion. But it will take alot of people another few years I think - wasted years - before enough people realise it (perhaps I'm wrong, and perhaps enough already realise it, but without a fair leadership challenge, and a fair counting of the votes, we'll never know). Really that's all that can be said, and we'll have to agree to disagree on the value of Griffin for nationalism. But people on here know I used to defend Griffin just as fervently as anyone else. The loss of Bowden, the RWB punchup and subsequent loss of Spence and the BNP deputy leader, made me wake up to Griffin's poor judgement - Walker and Collett of course were right at the centre of it, and were protected, while a pr coup like Spence was allowed to walk away. Then there was the decline of support in the mill towns, partly because of internal fighting (Collett and Griffin involved again - i.e. the loss of Angela Clark, then Sharon Ebanks), then the enough is enough fiasco, brought on by Griffin's suspending of party discipline rules when Collett is involved. You've defended Collett on here, but I certainly will not - he is part of the image problem, and the images created by him on Young, Nazi and Proud will stay with the British public for a very long time. There are too many people who have just dismissed the BNP and don't give them a second thought, but with a new leadership many people will come over. Griffin has more than outlasted his usefulness. You can disagree, but I predict in a few years time we'll all look back and either wish he had gone, or rejoice that he did.
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