Originally Posted by Roland

Harbinger

So lets get this straight.

You fear the threat of terrorism.

Surely if the threat of terrorism is so great the first thing to do is close the borders.

Is that not the most obvious thing to do?

But no not this government, they allow any one in have no idea who they are or where they are and then tell us we must all be what amounts to being micro chipped.

One more point to think about. It's estimated the cost would be 20 billion pounds and could be far greater than that. So we the people of this country are expected to pay for that even though by your own admittance it will not stop terrorism. Do you not think 20 billion pounds could not be spent else where?

Sorry but you are a mug.

We had years of being attacked by the IRA who did far more damage over the years than suicide bombers and we said we will not let terrorism change our way of life and as soon as we cold get on with it we carried on business as usual. Now Blair said we will not let terrorism change our way life then started to remove civil liberties.

Get this into your head the attack is not on terrorists it is on us. If you think the Hitlers and Starlin's of this world our a thing of the past then may be you should start paying a bit more attention to whats going on in the world.

Originally Posted by Ayn Rand

"Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good."