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Originally Posted by Akria
You say no offence but then go on to insult me. How odd.
If you did not mean to cause offence then why say offensive things in the first place?
Who decides?
Whoever is making a decision that affects humanity. Only they can. If they make the wrong choice then there's not much we can do except try to rectify it.
I might ask the same question of you - if everyone decided to act in what they thought were their country's best interests, would that not be an even more certain way to create conflict?
Say, as the British people decided that it would be in Britain's best interests to invade and steal the natural resources of other nations?
The bottom line is that all nations are merely concepts with no solid foundation, and that peoples can change as shown by the relative tolerance for homosexuals by the Church today, and that as it is not a nation which makes a decision but the people in charge that the attitudes shown in international diplomacy can change.
You call me naive when you are not me. You did not partake of the experience of the many months in which I have formed my opinions on logical structures which are based on foundations I have discussed with others and believe to be correct.
I spent time constructing my beliefs. I am no more naive than anyone else who has actually thought about their positions.
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Seriously mate, you need to calm down
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You don't seem to see the flaw in your approach - In a perfect world, there would be an ideal situation for humanity, where everyone could live happily and go dancing in the fields with daisies in their hair, etc.
Unfortunately, between the liberal fantasy world and the world we actually live in, pesky reality has an irksome habit of intervening and showing the middle finger to such dreams of utopia.
The mistake you are making is that of thinking you know what is best for humanity. But, I ask you, who has ever fully understood humanity? No-one. Thus, who is qualified to say that they know the best course for humanity? Again, no-one.
There probably is no best course. Why? Because we live in an imperfect world, and we all suffer from the same human sickness. We will always be killing each other, stealing from one another etc. Deal with it.
Consider Communism, for example. As I view it, the basic premise of Communism is that all injustice and suffering in this world is a result of imperfect societies, and that if the perfect society were to be built, then you would have a true heaven on Earth.
The mistake Communism makes is to believe that our human weaknesses are a result of corrupt societies rather than being innate in us. Communism believed that in a Communist society there would be no robbery, murder, jealousy etc. Well, we all know what happened. It turned out far worse than the society it set out to replace.
Seriously, if I didn't believe that we are all inherently capable of evil, I would be a dedicated Communist.
As it is, I know that we are, and that therefore the idea of paradise on Earth is a contradiction-in-terms, and that any attempt to create one is bound to fail by default (as seen with Communism).
Yet, I believe that, in the beginning, many Communists truly believed in what they were trying to achieve.
Therefore, one should be careful of trying to achieve what is 'best for humanity'. (I'm sure the Nazi's believed in their own actions in the same way the Communists did).
The bottom line is that nobody knows, and nobody will ever know.
There is nothing wrong with acting in your nations' best interests. It only becomes a problem when patriotism becomes nationalism, and hatreds arise etc.
Again, I truly believe that a world without nations would be a better place, but I am realistic enough to realise that such a concept can only exist in cloud cuckoo land.
Yes, our treatment of other countries may have been less than ideal, but we have also done a lot of good for the world. Name me one empire which has not committed mistakes. The world is a brutal place - get over it.
Again, like it or not, the world is split up into different races and different patches of land. I'm sorry, but nations are a natural and logical fact. In an ideal world, all humans would look the same, and the world would be one connected patch of land (with no islands
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I appreciate that you may have spent several months developing your opinions, but that is no reason to react with anger and hostility when they are challenged.