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If you are too lazy to read my post properly i am not inclined to help
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Well I can't see any such argument, so I shall presume it's false until you come up with the goods.
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No. I have nothing to hide, carrying an ID card is not beig treated s a criminal at all
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What else do you call putting peoples DNA, iris scan and fingerprint onto a database? What gives the government the right to demand such information from me, when I have done nothing wrong? What's to stop people abusing the database? Are you happy with the fact the government intends to sell access to the database? There's also nothing to stop the government expanding/changing the use of the database in future. It's so wide open to abuse and controlling the population it's almost beyond belief.
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Uh HUh so abandon the requirement for people to have them when entering the UK, would you approve of that? i doubt it.
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It's still radically different from ID cards - which won't even be valid in other countries.
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Originally Posted by Harbinger
Well lets hope you are never the victim of identity fraud then.
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I have other methods of proving my identity. I do not need an ID card to do this, nor do I want one. If it's such a desirable system, pray tell why it's compulsory and not voluntary. Also, if you think ID cards are going to stop identity fraud then you're mistaken. If anything, it will make it worse - ID cards and the information on the National Identity Register will be a prime target for criminals.
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Proving your ID has nothing to do with being accountable.
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Come back and say that in future when you're getting stopped by Policemen every 5 minutes whose first words will be "ID card please".
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Uhh yes
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Why?
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Because the details were made public. That very act shows that democraccy and freedom are alive and well.
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No, if freedom was alive and well we wouldn't be spied on in the first place.
Nothing to say public bodies will continue to publish such information. The outcry after the incident is surely enough to show that such intrusion into our lives in unwanted.
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So I have gone from a lefty labour member to BNP, interesting.
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Generally most outspoken racists are.
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No, if you are looking for irish terrorists you look for recent irish immigrants, do the same for Muslims, Sikhs or whatever.
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If you really believe that's how things work in this Country at the moment then you're a bigger fool than I gave you credit for.