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Roland · 11-05-2008, 01:22 PM

It would be impossible to show one piece of evidence.

Politics is a very complicated game theirs little point in taking what politicians say as anything more than spin. So I watch what they do read between the lines and look at all the factors and variables to try and work out what their up to.

The difference between labour's EU and conservatives EU is labour believe in it the conservatives use it for personal and political advantage.

I've read many pro EU articles where Britain used to constantly get slatted by the rest of the EU for only being in it for their own interests and not playing ball with the rest of the union and always holding things up or slowing things down. Most European Eu supporters would like to see Britain kicked out but their is obviously a plan and we're part of it.

The conservatives that sold the country out we're either bribed or conned.

Then their was Blair who was basically a tory he sold the country out for his own political gain he could not give a toss what the EU do or what it dose or weather it's good or bad or the advantages or disadvantages or how it can be used he just took the money and ran.

Now we have brown who genuinly loves the EU and thinks the EU's all things good and Britain is as a sovereign nation is all things bad and all requests and directives should be immediately followed with out question. He see's his job as more getting round the British people rather than looking after they're interests.

So yes their all a bunch of lying traitors and wile I'm no fan of the conservative party I'll feel safer under them than I do under labour.

There are two thing's that we must keep which are the pound and our own army as long as we have these we our in the union not run by it and then it is the choice of the government of the day weather we abide by it or challenge it. On saying this the Treaty is a more sinister step it cause us to be financially inter looked with the EU.

I have no doubt that their are very powerful faceless people behind the EU and their strangle hold is getting stronger at least a conservative government will slow it down and may break down the propaganda machine which labour have put into action.

11-05-2008, 01:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 856	It would be impossible to show one piece of evidence. Politics is a very complicated game theirs little point in taking what politicians say as anything more than spin. So I watch what they do read between the lines and look at all the factors and variables to try and work out what their up to. The difference between labour's EU and conservatives EU is labour believe in it the conservatives use it for personal and political advantage. I've read many pro EU articles where Britain used to constantly get slatted by the rest of the EU for only being in it for their own interests and not playing ball with the rest of the union and always holding things up or slowing things down. Most European Eu supporters would like to see Britain kicked out but their is obviously a plan and we're part of it. The conservatives that sold the country out we're either bribed or conned. Then their was Blair who was basically a tory he sold the country out for his own political gain he could not give a toss what the EU do or what it dose or weather it's good or bad or the advantages or disadvantages or how it can be used he just took the money and ran. Now we have brown who genuinly loves the EU and thinks the EU's all things good and Britain is as a sovereign nation is all things bad and all requests and directives should be immediately followed with out question. He see's his job as more getting round the British people rather than looking after they're interests. So yes their all a bunch of lying traitors and wile I'm no fan of the conservative party I'll feel safer under them than I do under labour. There are two thing's that we must keep which are the pound and our own army as long as we have these we our in the union not run by it and then it is the choice of the government of the day weather we abide by it or challenge it. On saying this the Treaty is a more sinister step it cause us to be financially inter looked with the EU. I have no doubt that their are very powerful faceless people behind the EU and their strangle hold is getting stronger at least a conservative government will slow it down and may break down the propaganda machine which labour have put into action.