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Old 11-05-2008, 09:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have assurances from my MP that they will be purely opt in (who has received assurances from BT - not sure about VM).
Is this the same BT who assured customers that they had not performed secret trials of phorm. I know a few MPs and Lords are concerned about this, frankly not enough of them are making any noises, it also seems that the Home Office do not want to get involved either.

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My MP stated in their letter that should the system be rolled out nationally then it would come before Parliament.
I`d rather it came before Parliament and the courts before being implemented.

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the ICO has been told (by the 3 companies - BT, Carphone Warehouse and VM) that the users will be duly informed about the technology and presented with the possibility to become involved, ie. to provide their consent by positively opting in, and that they will also have the possibility to change their mind at any moment later."
This statement does not go far enough, if a users decides to opt-in, unaware of what phorm really is about and then changes their mind, will it still be opt-out by default or as soon as you sign up to phorm, this changes to opt-in?

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However, what concerns us more is the secretive way that some ISPs have trialled and introduced such software (ie. Phorm). Many consumers will simply be unaware of the concerns of such new technology, introduced without their knowledge.

Labour MEPs believe that some consumers could be more willing to accept certain tradeoffs if their internet service providers had entered into an open, transparent dialogue with them in the first place and explained how the system worked; what benefits they fofered and what risked they posed.

Some of the responsibility also rests with politicians. We have a responsibility to ensure increased media literacy and awareness of these issues. To that end, Labour MEPs are currently looking at various ways to improve the dialogue between technology companies and consumers on privacy issues...Privacy concerns are certainly set to increase rather than decrease as more of our lives are conducted using digital technolohy and it is therefore appropriate that we keep reviewing whether the provisions we have in place are adequate."
Those MPs should be asking the police why they are not investigating BT and Phorm for illegal interception, some BT users with the data to prove that they where part of the trial without their consent, have been told by the Police, we have better things to do, if you or i did something similar we would face prosecution.

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True, but I have already gained assurances from my MEPs about their stance on the issue. They are firmly in favour of net neutrality and not kicking people off the 'net, access to which they regard as a 'human right'.
I cetanily hope those that are in favour of keeping the net neutral win the day, Virgin Media`s CEO called Net Neutrality "Bol***ks".

Also keep in mind phorm will be able to see the unseen forums, those used by the Mods.
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