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Old 10-05-2008, 10:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Anti-terror laws represent an unwarranted and unwelcome intrusion into the liberties of British citizens.
Terrorism is also unwanted do you agree?

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You don't need draconian control measures or ID cards to prosecute terrorists. Detention without charge and ID cards go against everything a liberal democracy is supposed to stand for.
Well the devil is in the detail there, you say liberal, says it all to me.

I am for the rights of the average person against the terrorist, you enlightened 'liberals' are for the criminal.

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I don't want my details on an insecure government database, which the government plans to sell access to. The government has no right to demand such information from me, it has no right to ask for my fingerprints or my DNA. I am a free man, not a convicted criminal. The government works for ME, not the other way around.
Indeed and you'd be the first to whine when victim of some easily preventable crime.

I've got bad news for you, your details are already on dozens of insecure databases.

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Have you read 1984?
I have, a book by a dissolusioned socialist written 60 odd years ago, did you see the 7/7 bombings? 9/11? madrid?

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If you like your 'security' so much, move to China.

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

ID cards are hardly draconian, many other perfectly civilised countries have them what are you so afraid of? And we are only talking of extending custody without charge not abolishing it.
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