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Aardvark · 08-05-2008, 09:20 AM

Bob FM,

You didn't read your NEC paperwork, Geoffrey did stand for the NEC and, having met him after I voted, I realise I made a mistake in not supporting him.

The allegations Geoffrey refers to have been passed on to other bodies and we are not privy to the full details. I know that research to establish the facts was paid for by a concerned NEC member at the time, but I don't know what has become of it.

In a healthy, democratic party criticism of the leadership is normal and accepted.

Do you think that the Labour Party is currently rock solid behind their elected leader?

The LibDems are working through all of their MPs as leader in turn, or so it seems, as the result of internal concerns and criticisms. If the LibDems, who have had considerable more electoral success than UKIP (second in percentage terms at the recent elections and a stack of elected MPs and councillors), can publicly criticise their leader, if MPs, Tory and Labour as well, can express their disquiet in public then why should UKIP, a democratic party, seek to restrain free speech or criticism of their leader? You might want to ask why wealthy Eurosceptics, such as Mr Wheeler, would rather put their money behind a pro-EU party that files proper accounts for all of its branches and offices as opposed to UKIP which cannot properly account for all of the monies that come its way.

08-05-2008, 09:20 AM	#123 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,718	Bob FM, You didn't read your NEC paperwork, Geoffrey did stand for the NEC and, having met him after I voted, I realise I made a mistake in not supporting him. The allegations Geoffrey refers to have been passed on to other bodies and we are not privy to the full details. I know that research to establish the facts was paid for by a concerned NEC member at the time, but I don't know what has become of it. In a healthy, democratic party criticism of the leadership is normal and accepted. Do you think that the Labour Party is currently rock solid behind their elected leader? The LibDems are working through all of their MPs as leader in turn, or so it seems, as the result of internal concerns and criticisms. If the LibDems, who have had considerable more electoral success than UKIP (second in percentage terms at the recent elections and a stack of elected MPs and councillors), can publicly criticise their leader, if MPs, Tory and Labour as well, can express their disquiet in public then why should UKIP, a democratic party, seek to restrain free speech or criticism of their leader? You might want to ask why wealthy Eurosceptics, such as Mr Wheeler, would rather put their money behind a pro-EU party that files proper accounts for all of its branches and offices as opposed to UKIP which cannot properly account for all of the monies that come its way. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008 Last edited by Aardvark; 08-05-2008 at 09:23 AM.