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Originally Posted by davidnoakes
Bear, only an EU disinformation asset, and there have been five of you on this site all the time I've been on it, would make the following statement:
Bear "The qwango costs are British Government qwango costs, NOT EU qwango costs. The claim that the blossoming of quangos is down to the EU is simply incorrect."
Firstly, Westminster has been an EU puppet government since 1970. When Thatcher realised the EU was a dictatorship and tried to act independently, she was expelled as Prime Minister by other Bilderbergers in her cabinet in two months flat, and replaced by a compliant Bilderberger, John Major.
The 8,500 quangos costing £167 billion (cost in 1997 £negligible) is almost entirely down to the EU.
These quangos exist to employ over 100,000 influential people on salaries of £100,000 - £300,000pa to bribe them to smoth the way for the EU. Their other primary function is to enforce the EU's 120,000 regulations which cost our industry £100 billion pa.
The majority of these quangos are run by either by the EU's Common Purpose local control organisation, or by the Freemasons, who get there orders from the Bilderbergers.
The EU costs us £267 billion on a national GDP of £1,330 billion; more than a third of our economy. and that's without counting any of the figurres (like our EU contribution, £11 billion) that the Press is allowed to report on.
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All of this is completely true. And what he says about Thatcher is 100% true too - again the mainstream media are lying, and those that are prejudiced against "conspiracies" are brainwashed into believing the MSM.
David has the facts backing him up, whilst those that seek to discredit him seek to push an irrational argument up to the point that they have no other argument than to claim "CONPSPIRACY !"
What can a person conclude by reading the objections stated by those who are apparently anti-EU but state it is not possible or in Britain's interests to leave ?
Closer examination of their comments tells you what you need to know....
Bear says:
"The qwango costs are British Government qwango costs, NOT EU qwango costs. The claim that the blossoming of quangos is down to the EU is simply incorrect."
As David clearly points out, these quangos are set up for the purpose of integration into the EU, yet Bear wants us all to believe it is the British government wasting the money, though completely ignores the use of the money is for the EU itself.
Bear says:
"The state of our economy, the nature of our population, the SIZE of our population, the nature of todays world and the effects of globalisation in my considered opinion all rule out any opportunity to withdraw fro the EU and survive in any meaningful way."
So what he is saying is basically because things are apparently so bad, it is too late to stop.
How incredibly ridiculous !
If you for example had a heart attack through smoking and lost a limb, would you continue to damage your health and risk further injury because you could not undo the damage already done ?
"as a result of New Labour running the nation on a sea of rising debt"
Again no mention of the EU as to the cause of this at all.
"Then there is the so called cost of 100 billion on meeting EU regulations. Another bit of deliberate spin. The cost are far and away mostly in meeting international standards."
Bear is the one spinning here - these "international standards" are a total smokescreen, trying to persuade people that there is no option but to agree to them whatever the cost in the interests of "globalaization" that serve the elite, and do nothing for the average British person.
"Homologation of international standards"
Again talking as if there is no option but to accept the EU/globalist "free trade" gravy train .
Am I the only one who doesn't recognize the word "Homologation" and guess this is carefully crafted load of wordbull ?
Obviously there is no need to have such international standards if they are a cost to Britain, especially as Bear admits that "we no longer produce the manufactured goods to sell into the EU"
Bear blames the Labour government but is defending the actions of the quangos that the government supports - more double standards and doublethink.
"Stop funding the qwangos and most of the cash will still have to be spent anyway."
More complete rubbish. He fails to state why the government is forced to spend money rather than save it or re-invest it in other areas such as the re-organization of an independent Britain.
We can save a fortune by getting rid of these quangos, pulling out of the EU, stopping the war and stopping funding the surveillance and police state.
The money is there to reinvest in education, agriculture, health - IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PLAN that will take some time to undo the harm already caused.
The one that tops the lot is this one though........
"Our being a member state of the USE in the same way as say West Virginia is within the United States of America.
Poor, little of worth to sell to the rest, and were it not for federal support they receive, would be populated by paupers."
Anyone who has studied America and it's history knows that the federal government's main purpose is to destroy the idea of self-sufficency, monopolize the food chain and get people to become reliant on government handouts - i.e. use food as weapon against the people (as the EU have stated they will do too). And the fact that people are of little worth is a direct consequence of U.S domestic policy. So more blatant spin, lies and scare tactics from Bear....
Anyone with any sense should see through these traitors who claim to be the fountain of knowledge, but in truth, are disinformationalists whose only agenda is to try to diffuse positive action for change.
The only contribution these supposed anti-EU people make is to post comments like "Bit late for that aren't we?", "some people are planning to jump off the Titanic with no idea what happens next."
Yes we can't manage a **** up in a brewery can we ?
This argument that we apparently "need" the EU is a total sham, and has been demonstrated and proved to be false.
Not only is it contrary to the well presented points made by David and common sense in general, but it is totally defeatist and carefully crafted to scare people that it is in Britains interests to stay in and they haven't got the capability to create a better future on their own....