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Old 06-05-2008, 02:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If a number of drivers are observing the speed limit the effect is that all traffic in the traffic column will be observing the speed limit even the fools who don’t want to.

Nothing wrong with that.
On the contrary the actions of these self proclaimed "policemen" may cause an accident e.g. if a driver wishes to overtake then they could be exposed to the danger position for longer because someone wishes to show these "fools" a lesson.

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If I’m driving at the posted speed for the road then I’m driving responsibly. If people want to break the law why should I help them?
No you are not, you are driving very irresponsibly you should be aware at all times what is happening around you and making allowances for other people not just saying "I'm a safe driver I drive within the speed limit"
safe driving is about so much more then obeying a speed limit

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Not at all. The roads are for all and principally the people who obey the LAW.
No the public highway is for everybody pedestrians, cyclists, horse riders and drivers of many different vehicles

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I have paid my vehicle excise duties, I have paid my insurance, my car has a valid MOT which I renew at nine monthly intervals to be better able to have confidence in the roadworthiness of my car which I have serviced regularly anyway.
I pay my taxes and ensure any vehicles I drive are roadworthy and serviced properly


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Why then should I not use the roads in a legal manner and be expected to give preference to some young fool “on a mission” and why should my safety be put at risk by people flouting the law.
I think you've just given yourself away here as you feel that only young fools speed and there are many other laws which drivers of all ages and both sexes flout which are far more dangerous then exceeding a speed limit when the road conditions permit

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Speeding is as bad as being under the influence of drink or drugs behind the wheel or being over tired.
Depends on the circumstances and no I don't drink or drug and drive and try to be home before I'm tired but if I am I stop and get some coffee or a drink like Red Bull

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On the subject of being over tired I am in favour of tachographs and legislation on drivers hours and rest periods for all drivers on the roads especially private car drivers and not just HGV and PSV drivers.

The roads are dangerous. They are not places for enjoyment, they are the means of getting from A to B and nothing more.
Presumably you insure yourself with Aviva an have a blackbox in your vehicle

And sex is for reproduction and nothing more

In Independent research excessive speed as a causal factor in accidents has been recorded as being being between 7 and 12 % that is 1 in 12 to 1 in 8 so at the very worst that leaves other factors with a ratio of 7 in 8
We don't see the powers that be concentrating on these do we, is it because the factors are harder to measure and therefore harder to prove
It used to be that ACPO recommended 10%+2 before prosecuting a motorist for speeding because so much money can be raised that has gone out the window and respect for the police has dropped
A further point many councils have lowered speed limits and continue to do so can you explain why a road which has a limit of NSL in week one and then a limit of 50 or even 40 in week is any more dangerous when no changes have been made
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