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Old 04-05-2008, 08:25 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee View Post
NOW THIS IS GETTING ******* ABSURD, THOSE 13 PEOPLE REPRESENT THE TOP SCIENCE SOCIETIES IN THE WORLD. EITHER DEAL WITH THIS AND STOP BEING A FRAUD OR GO AWAY.
Those 13 people represent 13 people. That is all that signed. I do not see the signatures of the members, I do not see ANY evidence that the members support that position. Are you saying that everytime the President of the United States or the British Prime Minister signs something it is supported by a consensus of their electorate?

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She is head of the Royal society not a politician.
The head of scientific societies are political positions for the society.

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Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
What did the "scientists" sign?
"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide [...] is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause [...] disruption of the Earth's climate."

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As Poptech seems to claim the absurdity that these signatures from the representatives of these official science societies do not represent the members generally, then I feel free to ask him for ID to prove all the signatures on his petition were genuine.
I am not talking about whether the signers actually signed the paper, I am asking for evidence that this position is held by it's members. I have seen no such scientific poll or survey done of these societies members. Nothing. Therefore you paper is meaningless and designed to fool the uneducated to the imagined consensus.

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Well, Claverhouse, he seems to think they all genuine. After all, OISM says they are, so they must be.
OISM provides all the names, it should be quite easy to verify many of them. Surely you can prove them wrong and find made up names. I am sure no one has attempted to do this before except for Scientific American who only looked at 30 names when they could have easily looked at a couple hundred and made a stronger case. Someone could have actually by now looked at all the names. The problem is once you start to do so you consistently find real scientists. As I demonstrated. It is quite easy to cherry pick more common names that are harder to search for but that does not disprove a real scientist has that name. What you are attempting to do has been tried and failed just as you continue to.
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