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Originally Posted by mkpdavies
They seem to "forget" UKIP quite a lot.
I see nothing good in those results above. Even the BNP, who put in a showing at least, must be bitterly disapointed overall.
Scraped a seat in the Assembly though. It'll be lonely for the guy in there, there are no allies AT ALL.
So what's everyone going to do then. Keep watching this car crash every time, or join one of the old parties and hijack em!
I'm going to stick with my little band for now, but I am pessimistic that even the most organised, professional and principled party in the world has a very tough job in breaking through the MSM induced mass hypnosis.
Seriously, add up all of the votes from green down and it is still pitiful.
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I had been trying to make the point to B yesterday, that since time is short [in so far as it is unknown how long we have to get some change in our relationship with the EU with the, self amending LT coming into force from 1.1.09 and QMV five years later] - it is time for the anti EU movement to take stock.
With something like 8% of the total vote and the need to get at least 20% to provide an outside chance of enough seats to hold the balance in a hung parliament, the anti EU parties should not be fighting each other. Ideally, they would work together under a, say, British Democratic Alliance, with a common but restricted manifesto - each party taking responsibility for the constituencies where they are strongest.
I think there is every indication that all of the parties, with the exception of UKIP, would be prepared to work together - even if they had to hold their noses when dealing with the BNP because of the racial undertones - in fact some do this already. However, even though UKIP have obtained a very small share of the vote and the chances of pushing this up to 20%+ by the time of the GE after next are very small - particularly if they are competing with the BNP who are obviously gaining strength because of the general and growing concern over immigration, there is no chance of this happening whilst NF is leader.
There can be little doubt of the commitment to the cause of these non UKIP party members since none of them hold any paid office and if the UKIP leadership is not prepared to work with these others - the concern arises that it is because the UKIP MEPs want to protect their richly rewarded jobs.
This leaves UKIP members who are not positioning themselves to join the gravy train, who are genuine in their wish to change our relationship with the EU a dilemma - should they remain loyal to UKIP and try to change the party from within with little hope of success whilst NF is leader - or should they leave and join one of the other parties whose priority is to gain change - before it is too late.