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Old 02-05-2008, 01:28 AM   #125 (permalink)
BonnieDundee
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Originally Posted by Smidgey View Post
I think you've just created a huge straw man.
I don't.

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I have yet to come across a single libertarian that claims his position is a panacea and will create some kind of golden utopia.
That is not what I said, it I'm afraid you with the strawman. I simply claimed they pretty much solve all political, economic and social problems with it. And they do.

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As for Locke, in another thread you said that you were fed up of people making up the opinion of the dead for them. It seems you might be doing that just here. The Lockean proviso is extremely well defined in his Two Treatises on Government. As for Nozick's revision of it, it keeps true to the original proviso, whilst removing the problems (i.e. that someone could own the whole sea and that the first appropriation would in unjust). I don't see how this is a rightwing definition of the Lockean proviso since the conclusion that Locke wanted was exactly the same - just the way he got there was problematic.
There are many different interpretations of Locke depending on how serious you take the provisos about their being enough of natural resources to go around for any to be claimed without compensation. But that wasn't really the point, I was just talking about the general American style libertarian interpretation.
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