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Clippo · 29-04-2008, 07:32 AM

From Poptech’s list published in post# 18 above :

1. Discredited by serious science because they a) either have links to Exxon sourced ‘libertarian’ organisations, or parrot the propaganda of those organisations & b) they have not published their ‘research, if it is in peer-reviewed journals, c) if they have published their research in a peer-reviewed journal it has subsequently be debunked and d) They have expertise in a subject that is unrelated to Climatology. Some obviously fall into several categories :-

Khabibullo Abdusamatov, Ph.D. Astrophysicist
Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics
Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology
R. Timothy (Tim) Patterson, B.Sc. Biology, Ph.D. Professor of Geology
Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Astrophysicist
Lin Zhen-Shan and Sun Xian of the Nanjing Normal University in China
Henrik Svensmark, Director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish Anthony Watts, Meteorologist
Dennis T. Avery, M.S. Agricultural Economics
Philip K. Chapman, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Aeronautics and Astronautics, Ph.D. Instrumentation

For independent proof of their discredibility, google their names, or go to Wiki, or go to the logical science link I’ve given elsewhere.

2. Proof required ( a specific statement against AGW representative of the whole organisation)

Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Which leaves :-
3. Credible scientific sources.

NOAA
National Space Center (assuming this is the Goddard Space centre)

In the respect of these credible sources, please supply proof as in section 2. On the other hand to contradict your fraudulent assumptions, visit these links :-
NCDC: Climate of 2008 - February
- which clearly says GW is continuing
&

in respect of the Goddard Space centre, you do realise that the director is James Hansen and the likes of Gavin Schmidt ( co-founder of real Climate) and Michael Mann of the consensus believed Hockey stick work there.

So your are trying to kid us readers here that they disbelieve AGW ?
Incredible!!!!!!!!!
( the comment I wish to make about your sanity would get me banned ).

Now, I am fed up with your continued trolling of this quite fraudulent ‘evidence’ and will not respond to any further post unless you can specify the source & exact original statements.

29-04-2008, 07:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
Clippo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,780	From Poptech’s list published in post# 18 above : 1. Discredited by serious science because they a) either have links to Exxon sourced ‘libertarian’ organisations, or parrot the propaganda of those organisations & b) they have not published their ‘research, if it is in peer-reviewed journals, c) if they have published their research in a peer-reviewed journal it has subsequently be debunked and d) They have expertise in a subject that is unrelated to Climatology. Some obviously fall into several categories :- Khabibullo Abdusamatov, Ph.D. Astrophysicist Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology R. Timothy (Tim) Patterson, B.Sc. Biology, Ph.D. Professor of Geology Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Astrophysicist Lin Zhen-Shan and Sun Xian of the Nanjing Normal University in China Henrik Svensmark, Director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish Anthony Watts, Meteorologist Dennis T. Avery, M.S. Agricultural Economics Philip K. Chapman, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Aeronautics and Astronautics, Ph.D. Instrumentation For independent proof of their discredibility, google their names, or go to Wiki, or go to the logical science link I’ve given elsewhere. 2. Proof required ( a specific statement against AGW representative of the whole organisation) Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory Which leaves :- 3. Credible scientific sources. NOAA National Space Center (assuming this is the Goddard Space centre) In the respect of these credible sources, please supply proof as in section 2. On the other hand to contradict your fraudulent assumptions, visit these links :- NCDC: Climate of 2008 - February - which clearly says GW is continuing & in respect of the Goddard Space centre, you do realise that the director is James Hansen and the likes of Gavin Schmidt ( co-founder of real Climate) and Michael Mann of the consensus believed Hockey stick work there. So your are trying to kid us readers here that they disbelieve AGW ? Incredible!!!!!!!!! ( the comment I wish to make about your sanity would get me banned ). Now, I am fed up with your continued trolling of this quite fraudulent ‘evidence’ and will not respond to any further post unless you can specify the source & exact original statements.