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Originally Posted by Clippo
If you could be bothered, you could google and search hundreds if not thousands of criticisms of this project. However, for simplicity, and as a jumping off point for further research I refer you to wiki (don’t you just love it  ) :- |
"Thousands of criticisms" yet you choose the irrelevant Wikipedia? Please. I realise alarmists take the existence of a criticism as evidence of something being factually incorrect (which is one of the reasons RealClimate is so popular) but that is not how science works nor does it disprove something.
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Originally Posted by Clippo
I particularly this extract from the Scientific American
"Scientific American took a sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers – a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community.["16]
You will see from the bottom of the wiki link, late last year, OISM tried the petition again. However, with the evidence of fraud and ambiguity in the earlier one, scientists are now wary. Despite repeated calls, I don’t think the results have been published yet –
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Wow Scientific American checked out 30 out of the 19,000 Scientists! Amazing they absolutely debunked that, maybe you missed the obvious link I provided:
Art Robinson Responds to Petition Slander (
OISM)
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Only one false name has ever appeared on the petition. It was put there by Ozone Action (now Greenpeace USA) and removed immediately thereafter.
Every listed signer has a university degree in science. The posted listing gives their highest degrees. Thousands of physicists and chemists signed - including about 100 members of the National Academy, about 500 meteorologists and climate scientists, and numerous very eminent people in American science.
...while about 25 have asked to have their signatures removed.
For every signer we have a physical signature mailed to us by first class mail from the signer's address. No one has been listed who did not actually sign - except the Ozone Action signature, which they sent with false credentials, a false address, and a false signature.
The review article sent with the petition could not possibly have been mistaken for a PNAS reprint. I have published many research papers in PNAS. I am very familiar with reprint formats.
The PNAS claim originated because Frederick Seitz - past president of the National Academy and past president of Rockefeller University signed a letter that was circulated with the petition. (Dr. Seitz, like everyone else who has actively opposed the "enviro warmers" has been smeared with many false claims.) Also, the first signers of the petition were several rather famous members of the National Academy.
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Wrong AGAIN! Clippo you need to stop referencing the worthless Wikipedia.