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Bob FM · 27-04-2008, 09:39 PM

* Second hand smoke increases the risk of lung cancer by 20 – 30%
* Passive smoke increases the risk of heart disease by 25 – 35%

I've not bothered with the other they have no scientific basis, self reporting is not science.

Lung Cancer: 20 to 30% increased risk is actually, 1.2 to 1.3 Relative Risk, not absolute risk. 1 is no risk at all, 20% of no risk is scientifically insignificant.
Heart Disease: The same applies.

The use of percentages in this way is designed to con the people into believing passive smoking causes serious or fatal ill health. So let me give you some other % risks that cause cance, now bear in mind what I have said above.

3 cups of coffee a day: 60%
mushrooms ( 1 portion a day): 50%
Whole Milk (1 pint a day): 60%.

Now a question, do you believe the above percentages, because if you do, tens of millions of people are at greater risk of cancer from milk, coffee and mushrooms than from exposure to passive smoke. But of course you are not because they are relative risks if 1.6, 1.5 and 1.6, not absolute risks. The BMA know exactly what they are up to. the BHF tried the same trick and had to formally apologise for misleading the public, using the same heart stats.

27-04-2008, 09:39 PM	#62 (permalink)
Bob FM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 1,809	Oh Dear * Second hand smoke increases the risk of lung cancer by 20 – 30% * Passive smoke increases the risk of heart disease by 25 – 35% I've not bothered with the other they have no scientific basis, self reporting is not science. Lung Cancer: 20 to 30% increased risk is actually, 1.2 to 1.3 Relative Risk, not absolute risk. 1 is no risk at all, 20% of no risk is scientifically insignificant. Heart Disease: The same applies. The use of percentages in this way is designed to con the people into believing passive smoking causes serious or fatal ill health. So let me give you some other % risks that cause cance, now bear in mind what I have said above. 3 cups of coffee a day: 60% mushrooms ( 1 portion a day): 50% Whole Milk (1 pint a day): 60%. Now a question, do you believe the above percentages, because if you do, tens of millions of people are at greater risk of cancer from milk, coffee and mushrooms than from exposure to passive smoke. But of course you are not because they are relative risks if 1.6, 1.5 and 1.6, not absolute risks. The BMA know exactly what they are up to. the BHF tried the same trick and had to formally apologise for misleading the public, using the same heart stats.