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Aardvark · 27-04-2008, 11:32 AM

They are paid in that their council taxes are lower, but it is difficult to point this out to people.

We can abandon recycling altogether and we can put everything into landfill, as seems to be argued by a lot of vociferous UKIP supporters, but until we leave the EU we are subject to landfill taxes and the reduction in recycling (virtually all our steel production is recycling) will cost thousands of jobs and add to our balance of payments deficit.

I believe that the increase in balance of payments deficit and the imposition of landfill taxes and the reduction in jobs is being argued for by all of those who use emotive terms such as 'envirofascist' to describe those who would create work, reduce the balance of payments and avoid landfill taxes.

If by helping to reduce landfill charges, reducing the balance of payments deficit and increasing employment I am an 'envirofascist' then so be it. If idiots with larger than average bins and after warnings choose not to attend court and get fined then that is their problem and not mine.

In some parts of the country stab vests are needed to serve legal documents because the local government officers (none of whom will ever vote for the idiots who condemn them for doing their job) in some areas get attacked for carrying out duties that we expect of them. Photographic evidence is required to support court actions - I used it to help my daiughter avoid a conviction.

UKIP should be campaigning to create an environment where local government officers and public officials are not attacked - we have thugs who attack the ambulance service and firemen in uniform as well as the police.

UKIP should be campaigning for proper enforcement of the laws we have, not supporting those who openly defy a law that is respected by every other member of the community in which they live. The message this thread sends out to the hundreds of thousands of public servants who are going about the business of managing the bodies that are controlled by elected members is 'don't vote UKIP, they're with the lawbreakers'. When we get into local authorities are we going to back our employees or the lawbreakers? If we side with one lawbreaker are we going to be happy as elected members when the whole district breaks the law and our local services can't cope? We'll have to employ more workers to clear up the mess and that will mean higher taxes.

Vote UKIP, support chaos in your local services and pay higher taxes. That's what this thread is saying in so many words.

27-04-2008, 11:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,692	They are paid in that their council taxes are lower, but it is difficult to point this out to people. We can abandon recycling altogether and we can put everything into landfill, as seems to be argued by a lot of vociferous UKIP supporters, but until we leave the EU we are subject to landfill taxes and the reduction in recycling (virtually all our steel production is recycling) will cost thousands of jobs and add to our balance of payments deficit. I believe that the increase in balance of payments deficit and the imposition of landfill taxes and the reduction in jobs is being argued for by all of those who use emotive terms such as 'envirofascist' to describe those who would create work, reduce the balance of payments and avoid landfill taxes. If by helping to reduce landfill charges, reducing the balance of payments deficit and increasing employment I am an 'envirofascist' then so be it. If idiots with larger than average bins and after warnings choose not to attend court and get fined then that is their problem and not mine. In some parts of the country stab vests are needed to serve legal documents because the local government officers (none of whom will ever vote for the idiots who condemn them for doing their job) in some areas get attacked for carrying out duties that we expect of them. Photographic evidence is required to support court actions - I used it to help my daiughter avoid a conviction. UKIP should be campaigning to create an environment where local government officers and public officials are not attacked - we have thugs who attack the ambulance service and firemen in uniform as well as the police. UKIP should be campaigning for proper enforcement of the laws we have, not supporting those who openly defy a law that is respected by every other member of the community in which they live. The message this thread sends out to the hundreds of thousands of public servants who are going about the business of managing the bodies that are controlled by elected members is 'don't vote UKIP, they're with the lawbreakers'. When we get into local authorities are we going to back our employees or the lawbreakers? If we side with one lawbreaker are we going to be happy as elected members when the whole district breaks the law and our local services can't cope? We'll have to employ more workers to clear up the mess and that will mean higher taxes. Vote UKIP, support chaos in your local services and pay higher taxes. That's what this thread is saying in so many words. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008 Last edited by Aardvark; 27-04-2008 at 11:35 AM.