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Old 25-04-2008, 09:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Poptech wrote:-
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There is extensive evidence for a sun-climate connection.
Historically yes there is - but not for the current phase of GW. Satellite studies have shown conclusively only a minute change in the Sun's output over the last 2-3 decades. Refer to the IPCC reports for scientific fact on this.

However, curious at your seemingly impressive list of references to support your case I glanced down it and guess what ? we find the names Soon, Baliunas, Milloy (of Junkscience fame), Patterson - all well known contrarians whose theories have been debunked by the mainstream science.
Added to your list are many media articles which probably 2nd generation pieces from the flawed Solar / GW theorists. And then we have the usual crackpots from outside the mainstream Climate science fields.

Worried that I may have indeed been mistaken all along, I looked intensively at reference #6 in your first list attributed to the Guardian. (The Guardian publishing something so heretical ?????). What do I find ? Actually it's a letter from a reader. And guess who ?? why it's our old meteorologist crackpot Piers Corbyn.

I need say no more on the this topic.

As regards Nancy Oreskes' research, you are living in a parallel universe.

The deniers did try some time back to cast doubt ( their favourite tactic) on her research methods but their arguments were blown out of the water comprehensively. By your own printed admission, Science magazine refused to print Benny Peiser's 'research' - probably because it was so flawed it didn't get through initial peer-review.
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