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Old 23-04-2008, 07:09 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Let me list some:

1) National service - very anti-freedom, statist and anti-liberty.
2) Removing the vote of conscientious objectors - anti-liberty and basically amounts to punishing those who disagree with you so that they cannot vote agianst you.
3) Capital punishment - According to a libertarian, the state is not infallible, sorry...
4) They support a 'free' (or so they call it, Ha!), National Health Service - A socialistic leftist policy.
5) Control of agriculture and agricultural subsidies - little do they realise that many of these subsidies caused the problems in the first place, not to mention that it is anti-economic freedom.
6) Opposition to rail privatisation - This one's a no brainer.
7) Public schooling - not only do they support it, but they specifically mention that they are angered by the indoctrination of 'our children'. The ironic thing is, they then go on to argue in favour of indoctrination - just their kind this time!
8) Increase taxes on companies that outsource.
9) Centralising education.
10) Require supermarkets to stock British grown food - no doubt at great cost to everyone in Britain. Bastiat would be absolutely appalled.
11) Introduction of daily Christian assemblies into public schools - no thanks!
12) They wish to abolish university fees - how on earth are they going to pay for this whilst promising to lower taxes? It would seem that when a party has no chance of getting into power they can offer anything they want.
13) They support the continued use of council houses.
14) Invest in maglev trains - why on earth? This is just insanity.

I could go on.

Some of their policies are exceptionally vague as well.
Ok some goo points there.
Let me give my opinion on each.

1) National service - very anti-freedom, statist and anti-liberty.

Some thing that has many positives in my opinion.
Increase patriotism.
Instill discipline in our youth.
Create a sense of belonging.
Make our nation war ready.


2) Removing the vote of conscientious objectors - anti-liberty and basically amounts to punishing those who disagree with you so that they cannot vote agianst you.

Interesting one it stops the shirkers of duty having a say.

3) Capital punishment - According to a libertarian, the state is not infallible, sorry...

Somthing thats needed for lifers that commit crimes inside and very popular too.
4) They support a 'free' (or so they call it, Ha!), National Health Service - A socialistic leftist policy.

The NHS increases freedom as it provides healthcare for many who otherwise would not be able to afford it.

5) Control of agriculture and agricultural subsidies - little do they realise that many of these subsidies caused the problems in the first place, not to mention that it is anti-economic freedom.

Essential to make us self-sufficient in food and secure as a nation.

6) Opposition to rail privatisation - This one's a no brainer.

Rail Privatisation has been a disaster.
Our railways are a disgrace compared to many other nations with State owned railways.


7) Public schooling - not only do they support it, but they specifically mention that they are angered by the indoctrination of 'our children'. The ironic thing is, they then go on to argue in favour of indoctrination - just their kind this time!

Im shocked that your against state schools.
We need to be realistic here.


8) Increase taxes on companies that outsource.

Great idea.
Want to see goods here then make them here.


9) Centralising education.

Well needed to create a united patriotic state.

10) Require supermarkets to stock British grown food - no doubt at great cost to everyone in Britain. Bastiat would be absolutely appalled.

Another very good popular policy that I covered in at 5

11) Introduction of daily Christian assemblies into public schools - no thanks!

Maybe upset British atheists which may be a problem.

12) They wish to abolish university fees - how on earth are they going to pay for this whilst promising to lower taxes? It would seem that when a party has no chance of getting into power they can offer anything they want.

saving 8 billion on foreign aid and 2 and half billion on asylum seeker costs would more than cover it

13) They support the continued use of council houses.


As do I until people can afford to buy.


14) Invest in maglev trains - why on earth? This is just insanity.

We need the best railways on earth to show the world British greatness amomg other things.
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