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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP
I can't see how you can say this is not bad news for the BNP. Obviously this is going to place the BNP's predicted victories in the GLA's very much in the shade. Not that these were particularly likely to impress anyone other than the pathetically grateful members of the BNP and their hysterical detractors in the UAF. Certainly not the members of UKIP who won two GLA seats last time, five years ago. Indeed if the BNP do manage two seats they are most likely to replace the UKIP rebels, one London, and therefore will not have inflicted any additional damage on the Establishment. The BNP haven't made any advance, they have simply walked through a hole punched in the opposition line by UKIP. The only reason the BNP have any chance at all is the mess UKIP have made of their breakthroughs and its inability to face up to the immigration crisis in a meaningful way.
The BNP's disingenuous reaction to UKIP's achievement is totemic of the crude spin it places on almost every subject. Only a fool would believe that the BNP would not have given Lee Barn's balls for Spinks' name on a membership card. And yet they are claiming it as some sort of betrayal of the electorate! The contempt in which the BNP hold the electorate and most of all its own membership is one of the main reasons their wildest dream is winning 3 seats of Epping Council as major cities are cleared of indigenous Britons.
Spink might lose his seat next time out. However there is no guaterntee of this, as has already been noted. In addition to Galloway Richard Taylor in Kidderminster held his independent seat last time out. Martin Bell also demonstarted that good local campaign can get results. Small Parties control significant numbers of constituencies in the "Celtic" nations. The idea that this it is impossiblt to win Westminsters seats because of FPTP has been pedled by the incompant leadership of conservative/nationalist groups for the last three decades rather than go to the trouble of developing attractive policy platforms and adopting proffessional standards. Lets all pray that Spink can can refute this damaging defeatest theory for the good of us all.
PS congratulations UKIP and well done Mr Spink.
Brummie76
PS If the BNP had any researchers they would be working full time on how to extract more cash for Griffin and identifying any members with talent and judgement so they can be "proscribed" before they cause Collet and his pals any trouble.
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Why is this bad for the BNP? The media will forget about this after a couple of days and will focus on the elections at hand. If UKIP falls back in London and fails to gain any GLA members that is not good for them at all, especially if the BNP manages to gain members. Whether UKIP made the gains or not last time is irrelevent, they probably have little influence on this election if any at all especially not on the BNP vote.
They must of been popular MP's, from what I am reading about spink is that he has a few things coming out which may see his former voters vote against him. A persons character does in some places have a lot of influence, a good example is probably Steve Radford in Liverpool although I cant stand the man.
The BNP no longer say its impossible for them to win seats, they are actually getting ready to win seats at the next elections. Although I will agree in the past Nationalist parties have been too negative.
Also how does UKIP stand a chance to retain the seat if they can only stand one council candidate in the area? UKIP cant rely on this mans name recognition to win them the seat, especially if some not so nice things are coming out about this man.
I will admit I would of prefered BNP to get an MP first, we still can get the first ELECTED MP. However would I want spink? The answer is probably not, with the BNP's stance on the activities of certain MP's taking in this man would in my opinion be hypocritical.