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Originally Posted by Mikeuk
It was hardly an issue in the days when most Europeans had never seen an African was it? However, the actions of Hawkins and the Spanish and Portuguese slavers, taken together with Queen Elizabeth's commands to expel 'negars' from London suggest that 'race consciousness' and negrophobia were not unknown many years before the 18th century.
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Racism started together with colonialism and scientific racism was applied to justify social policy in the past.
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Originally Posted by Mikeuk
Don't be ridiculous. Incidentally, rightly or (very possibly) wrongly, most of us picture an 'Australian' as a white European. Does your use of language indicate where you are coming from politically?.
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I said scientific conclusion.
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Originally Posted by Mikeuk
So? We share 90% of our DNA with the chimpanzee and 70% with the cockroach. Let's talk about whether we have more in common with lice or fleas. It would be just as unproductive.
You can beef on about these matters endlessly. I simply look at the fruits of 'White' rule and those of 'Black' rule and the implications are obvious. Incidentally I do not begrudge the Blacks the right to rule themselves. I just don't want to be there.
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So your theory of racial biological determinism comes from your "look" into a history divided by "white rule" and "black rule".
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Originally Posted by Mikeuk
Nonsense. A Black American can choose to be a Catholic or a member of the American Rifle Association. He cannot choose to be a White European any more than I can choose to be a Black American.
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I said scientific conclusion.
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Originally Posted by Mikeuk
That's the 20th century. In the centuries preceding industrialisation great civilisations rose and fell throughout Europe and Asia. The Black African has had his high points (Benin, Zimbabwe etc) but they have hardly been in the same league.
The rest of your post, with its reference to a supposed 'Master Race', is confusing and seems to contradict much of what you said previously.
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Because the idea that rise of fall of civilisations or individual performance is largely determined by their race lacks substantial back up from history.