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Old 19-04-2008, 10:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It is rightly said that it is better to light a candle than sit in the dark and whinge.

Yes, I do wish the death penalty would be returned for certain crimes and I am aware that the EU as a nation of federated states which it is, opposes it but that doesn’t mean that I would want Britain to sit outside of the EU, much better to fully partake of the whole show and work for change and that is precisely what I believe would be the very best strategy for the UKIP to now be adopting.

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All of the facts I have given in my last posting to this thread are correct and only a europhile would take your stance. Post Office closures are due to EU Directives and due to a Labour Government which cares little for village and rural communities.
There is no doubt that the DATA that you provide is correct, at least as far as it goes, but data is not the same as information.

Information results from the analysis of data, and the information in the case of the Postal Services is that the root cause of the reduction in the number of rural post offices comes down to a policy of stripping them of the services they provided and then facing the EU rules regarding state subsidy of lame duck businesses.

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As for your reference to "harmonisation" (quote above) - "harmonisation" is among the typical stale, outdated and discredited 1970's terminology used by europhiles who want to create a single EU Superstate including a pan-EU postal service. Which is what you want too based on your comments so far.
I DO want a single United States of Europe! It’s our best option in the face of our position in the world and the dreadful state of our economy! AS for a pan European postal service, maybe along the same lines as US mail, and why not? Supplemented by private business to carry bulky or heavy parcels it would make perfect sense.

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There is no "level playing field" (your words) as regards the EU - not as far as the UK is concerned.
And that is precisely because Britain is dragging its heels in the European forums and being held back by people not realising just where Britain stands today in the world.

We are an offshore rock, hopelessly overpopulated with 65 plus million people on it, going deeper into debt hour by hour and rather than taking what in my opinion is the least worst option open to us, constantly whinging about how awful the EU is.

Guess what. Europe isn’t awful. The Italians don’t think so, the Poles don’t think so, the other new members don’t think so, and after a few months let alone a couple of years of the slump that is in the process of hitting the west most of the British people won’t think so either.

Right now we’re simply in denial about where we stand and if we can but move away from that, and it will be a painful thing for many people to accept, then suddenly this awful thing called the EU will seem a hell of a lot better than the alternatives remaining open to us.

I just hope the penny drops before the costs of becoming fully joined at the hip with the EU and the ECB become truly devastating, because they will.
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