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Old 13-04-2008, 01:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Europhile, Salmond, Scottish 'Nationalists', England, Schengen, border, Wales, Ulster

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool View Post
So,Scotland go independent and remain in the EU, with the rest of the UK eventually becoming independent of the EU?
Would EU Citizens entering the UK from Scotland need visas and/or visitor and work permits for the UK,or should they be/not allowed to enter the UK Borders freely at will?
A good question, Hartlepool.

And one that the europhile Salmond (Scottish First Minister and leader of the pro-EU Scottish 'Nationalists') hopes won't be asked - for it is a question which rightly highlights the fact if he has his way and Scotland quits the UK but stays in the EU - there could be border posts/fences on the Scottish border with England.

Salmond keeps on telling the people of Scotland that they will be able go to and from England just as they can now - but it is not his position to either say such a thing or to decide about it.

England is going to leave the EU and while Scotland might enter the EU open border (Schengen) zone membership of it would not give people in Scotland (who, under Salmond's plans, would remain EU 'citizens') the right to enter England/Wales/Northern Ireland as and when they please (if Scotland were outside the UK) in the way that they can now.

The UK is not in the Schengen open border zone of the EU (thank goodness) and one day England (and, hopefully, the rest of the UK) is not going to be in the EU at all. If Scotland quits the UK but stays in the EU the people of Scotland could well find themselves having to show their passport before entering England, Wales or Northern Ireland/Ulster (all of which would still be in the UK) .

England (once outside the EU) could build a border fence with border posts and guards between England and Scotland if Scotland quit the UK but stayed in the EU. Indeed, England (after she has broken free from the EU straitjacket), may have to do such a thing in order to try to keep out illegal immigrants from trying to enter the English, Welsh and Northern Irish parts of the UK via the England land border with what would be the EU member state of Scotland.

I think that there are many in the europhile Scottish 'National' Party (a party which wants Scotland out of the UK and in the EU Superstate instead) who are trying to hide this fact from the Scottish people.

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