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Old 10-04-2008, 01:49 PM   #26 (permalink)
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We dont see exactly the same in White Communities do we.
They are far more poor Whites than poor Blacks yet the Black crime rate per head is far higher.
Well actually we DO see exactly the same in poor White communities. And in poor Asian communities and in poor Hispanic communities and in fact in any poor community.

If you look at the USA you'll see it in sharp focus as the haves and have not’s in the US are more deliniated in the US than in Britain, but there it is.

More than anything it shows that the primary cause is sociological rather than anything else, but there it is!

The Gangs in London’s East End were and remain legendary and white, same with the “Tongs” in Glasgow not to mention “The Fleet”, but let’s not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of good old bigotry eh?

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Bear in mind that 2% of the population of the UK is classified as black. The figures are stark: as of 30th June 1998, 7.1% of those serving prison sentences for burglary were black. The equivalent figure for theft and handling is 7.5%, for sexual offences 8.1%, violence against the person 9.7%, fraud and forgery 13.2% and drugs offences 19%, while for robbery it is a staggering 22.6%. Now, the massive over-representation of blacks in these categories, could, I am sure, be 'explained' by reference to "institutional racism".
I have no doubt that there is an element of racialism involved, but there is a much stronger causative factor and that is social deprivation.

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There will no doubt be many who hold that these are the only career options open to black youths. But I defy even Lord Macpherson to explain, for example, a four-fold over-representation in sex crimes among blacks by reference to that meaningless concept.
What meaningless concept? Much more likely a social component spinning out from the environmental factors surrounding how so many young black youths are required to endure.

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Perhaps wisely, the Home Office does not give us a breakdown of the racial origins of the victims of black sexual crime.
But that makes no sense. In the paragraph starting with “Bear in mind that 2% of the population of the UK is classified as black” you indicate that those serving sentences for sexual offences as being 8.1% of the prison population.

Is it that you have made the figures up, or that you don’t understand what you are reading. Or that you continue to look for things that will support your bigotry and prejudice rather than continually look for facts and reality?

There is a bottom line.

A persons racial origins at best give an indication to their social values but the social values are not genetic, they are learned factors and behaviour.

What being black in Britain is far more likely to indicate is the probability that a person will be from a socially deprived background and have suffered prejudice, bigotry, disadvantage, and lack of opportunity.
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