"Do you believe their story that China has done nothing in the land other than "brutal mass murder", "cultural genocide" and "demograhic aggression".
As if that's not enough already !
"China's constitution guarantees freedom of speech but like other states, it has a few laws limiting freedom of speech"
So it guarantees freedom of speech except when it doesn't - that shows what complete rubbish you speak....
"far from a brutal and oppressive regime that supresses freedom of speech".
You’re having a laugh !
Do the words “Tiananmen" and "Square” mean nothing to you ?
Are you saying people in China can openly criticize the government without any blowback ?
You’re living in a dreamworld again !
But you’re a blatant liar and propaganda merchant – that’s completely obvious to everyone by now anyway.
"Leaving the debate on China' human rights record aside"
How very convenient since that is the main point of the whole debate.......
Other examples of your “doublespeak” are
1)
"far from a brutal and oppressive regime that supresses freedom of speech".
” it has a few laws limiting freedom of speech"
2)
“Tibet isn't "westernised".
“yes, there are alot banks, cinemas, Macdonalds in city areas.”
Westernized/modernized whatever you like – you don’t see the problem with another country forcibly imposing itself on another country, and setting up businesses there to make money ? Do you agree with the U.S stealing Iraq's oil too ?
It’s like saying I could set up a business inside your house and there’d be no problem.
You admit China are using Tibet for personal gain but you see no problem with that.
Are you a thief too as well a liar ?
“millions who are exploited by corporates and business, especially so when China's present unions are not as strong as the European ones.”
So there’s no problem with exploitation either. I wonder whether China’s unions not being strong is any consequence of the Chinese dictatorship and their slave policy ? Hmmmm…
“In fact the average live of a Tibetan has been an important segment of my argument.”
You mean the exploitation of the Tibetan people ? Obviously so……
“China strictly forbids the use of torture”
And so
apparently does America but that doesn’t stop them setting up torture camps like Guantanmo Bay and Abu Gharib and writing whitehouse memos that say that children can have their genitals extracted with pliers.
By redefining torture, you allow it to occur, by not classifying it as “torture”.
And as Zak has pointed out, there are numerous examples of Chinese torture.
“without a shadow of doubt that staying poor or staying in an impoverished developing country has much of your personal freedom snatched away.”
No freedom of speech and poverty are separate issues.
And there is no evidence living standards wouldn’t have increased if China had not imposed itself on Tibet. Bear in mind too, the west tries to impoverish any sovereign country that won't allow it to come in and play....
“It is clearly more than a game.”
The Olympic games ?
Right………..
By the way when I was talking about the 'debacle' I was actually referring to the Olympic games…
"Isn't it time to expose the mask of Free-Tibet cheer leaders as misguided individuals who jump at joy for the first time they can express a sense of rebellion and uncivility under the banner of self-righteousness?"
I suppose they are terrorists and conspiracy theorists too ?
The only ones with masks are the Chinese dressing up as Tibetan monks to incite rioting and blame it on the Tibetans(despite your ridiculous protests to the contrary)
Your “argument”(or should I say propaganda) is no more than grossly misinformation and ill informed waffle - painting some kind of picture that Tibetans are on a morally politically correct crusade.
Obviously the issue regarding China is easy enough for a child to understand, but apparently everyone else except you(including the Tibetans) are ill informed.
If people really do their “research” they will quickly understand the west has changed the face of the media(even Wikipedia) to promote a pro-western and anti-freedom agenda in the interest of big business.
Nice attempt at trying to talk to everyone like they’re 2 years old - unfortunately that seems to be your mental age.
Please carry on with your propaganda and lies - hopefully people will have stopped listening to you by the time you reply with another page of misinformation.