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No party who stated they wanted to end the welfare state would be electable in this country so in my view your views lack any sense of reality.
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Any sense? I suggest you crack open the history books or look at the specific exampls around the world today.
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Taxation is not money stolen from you, it provides essentiall services such as health and education without which your quality of life would be severly affected,
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Just because the tax provides services doesn't mean it was not stolen. A robber who steals fifty pounds from you to pay for his cinema tickets has still stolen money from you.
Secondly, if they are so essential, I most certainly do not want Labour or the Conservatives in charge of them. Unlike you, Rjt, I don't have as much faith in our annointed leaders.
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thousands of people simply cannot afford private health and education ,how would you make such a thing affordable,
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It is not up to me to make such things affordable. However, you are right to enquire about the cost. This country simply cannot afford to keep the current welfare state. We are already in billions of pounds of debt. Under the system you espouse, when something bad happens to the economy, we are all going down the crapper whether we like it or not. Furthermore, you assume too much. The cost of health care, as a total of GDP, will go down.
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a couple in there 80s I know through church have to pay a massive ammount in for private health care each month but the man of 84 could not have an operation recently because of the cost, the NHS provided it and he has a new lease of life. Would you have denyed that man the chance to have this?
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No, because I don't believe in stripping the welfare state from under people who have paid into it for their whole lives. I would much rather gradually wean people off the system and slowly abolish it.
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What about those who cannot care for themselves, the disabled, the impoverished, the elderly?
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Friends, family, charity? There are countries across the world (take Japan for example) which have far less state involvement in care for the elderly and their elderly are better cared for!
You, Rjt, support giving our elderly a poorer quality of life. Revolting.
People can be cared for without theft. I'm surprised at how many Christians in this country, like yourself Rjt, who support theft and force to pay for things that can be provided at a cheaper cost under private enterprise.
It is sick and immoral, nothing less.
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Your suggestions would turn this country into a new Zimbabwe.
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How dare you. This statement obviously shows your complete ignorance on the subject of libertarianism. Not to mention that your above post contains many misconceptions.
You are the supporter lof theft and authority, not me. You are the one who is closer to Robert Mugabe.