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Old 03-04-2008, 09:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Lastly,walking through Europes non tourist areas has positively shown me that the European Continent is of peasantlike makeup,the interiors of Portugal,Spain,Italy,Greece and even large parts of France are still in the thirties.seventy five years behind us here,most know this as they have seen it for themselves,you can even go into France and Belgium today and see them in the fields ploughing and farming with hosedrawn ploughs and equipment,and all this after getting massive farm handouts every 12 months as the rigged CAP dictates for them.
I wonder if our intensive farming really is good for Britain as a whole. I wonder how many of the workshy who presently sit taking handouts from those who work and have their wages garnered would be working on farms today were it not for the over industrialisation of British farms.

The use of traditional means of agriculture? A substantial cause for that is the number of small farms that simply could not be financially viable were in not for the CAP.

But here’s the thing.

What would the cost benefit calculation be if those same small farms were to be aggregated into large industrialised places and the people so displaced put on the dole? What cost not just in cash terms but ecology terms? Because those same huge prairie like units that rely on abusing the land rather than cultivating it and are so dependent on chemicals are creating merry hell with the British wildlife.

So how come the French farmer with a few acres manages yet the UK farmer with many more can not? Very simple. The CAP requires that the government must match EU CAP funding and in Britain that simply doesn’t happen.

If the British government ploughed as much in domestic grants as do the French, the Italian, the Dutch, the Danish, the Spanish, the Portuguese, and so on then the British farmer would be in a very much better position to even survive, our land would not be so abused, better quality produce would be there to be had, and more people would be off the dole and in work.

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These peasants will not be moving up a bunch of notches and gaining the levels of our farming industry because our farming industry is being brought down to the European peasant levels just as seen in their countries by us all.
British farming is an abuse of nature. Let's never forget that.

What’s with the use of the word peasant almost as if it was some form of denunciation of a person?

Britain is made up of mostly peasants if the tight association with rural life that is sometimes applied is put to one side.

WE have our mass of urban peasants.

The unskilled or semiskilled masses who are very substantially or in many cases totally dependant on their “feudal lord” that these days is the Welfare State as their employment skills and ambition simply doesn’t deliver enough to live on.

Just because one person wears a shell suit and sneakers and calls their kids names like Chablis or Dwayne and works (if at all) in a retail outlet or some mundane job in an office, and another wears old tweeds and hob nail boots and works on the land, in reality matters nothing. They are BOTH peasants.

To paraphrase a well known saying, you can take the man out of the “peasantry” but you can’t take the peasantry out of the man.
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