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aarable · 23-03-2008, 08:35 PM

Obviously Gremlin you did not read my post otherwise you would have noted that the government obviously thinks we have one.

Matthew Parris recently wrote, “We are not hugely interested in constitutions. That’s why we don’t have one.”What is this poison that drips incessantly into the public veins?

John Adams, a U.S. President and drafter of the American Constitution, called the English Constitution “the most stupendous fabric of human invention” in all history.

The Guardian published an article by George Monbiot in January claiming we had no constitution:

"Not having a written constitution allowed Blair and his advisers to go to war without reference to parliament or the public."

Margaret Becket who is an expert on constitutional law, wrote back:
What you have stated above, the claim we that we do not have a 'written constitution', is misleading, since technically it means we do not have a codified constitution. Perhaps you would like to point out to us where it is not codified?

We have observed that Magna Carta, the Petition of Right, the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement, these are indeed codified. The claim that we do not have a written constitution is usually made in comparison of the codification of the American constitution, which is Masonic, and was made at one time.

But it should be born in mind that the claim that we in Britain do not have a constitution is used as propaganda formulated against the Rights of the People and in so doing is taking us down the path of tyranny, as made clear by Tom Paine when he said ‘…the constitution was made for the people and not government’.

For the record; we the People of Britain do indeed have a constitution and in accordance with it’s statues, the matter of going to war lies with the monarch NOT Parliament! We in Britain have a republic in which the Peoples’ power (the ‘prerogative’) is held by the monarch for their life-time. Parliament does not hold that power, further more an Oath of Allegiance has to be taken by anyone who wishes to take a seat in Parliament, this incorporates the laws of our land.

Mr Monboit’s article shows a lack of constitutional grasp by writing as he has - by referring to a "unwritten constitution" and calling it a "gentleman's agreement", and by not correcting such misinformation. It is this ignorance that has been deliberately propagated amongst the people of this nation which has effectively so far, allowed Blair to act as a dictator. What Mr Monbiot has suggested in his article about the constitutional reform, is too weak and incorrect, because it is clear he does not seem to realise what the government is proposing do to our enshrined laws and in so doing, you as a paper, are supporting the uprising of treasonable power.

The Fabian strategy is globalisation, Iraq and Afghanistan wars are merely part of this plan to which the People of Britain and other countries come a very poor second. It should be noted that Blair was head of the Fabian’s before becoming leader of the Labour party.

Last year 2007, we in Britain supposedly celebrated the end of slavery which often involved the use of physical chains and forced labour, now the dynamics of the game have changed and far from been abolished there is evidence that our parliamentarians have put the people of this nation even more deeply into the slavery into the European Union with its ever mounting tyrannical laws and controls including the loss of our inalienable rights, not least Habeas Corpus.

Furthermore, there is ample evidence from government documents that Edward Heath and others committed treason in taking us as a nation into the European Union. See http://tinyurl.com/2pfmcd
We look forward to hearing from you and trust you will correct this information in your newspaper and thus provide your readers with the truth of our very real 'written constitution'.

Yours Sincerely
Elizabeth Beckett

http://www.namastepublishing.co.uk/Elizabeth%20Beckett%20-%20News%20Black%20Out

23-03-2008, 08:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
aarable Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 69	Obviously Gremlin you did not read my post otherwise you would have noted that the government obviously thinks we have one. Matthew Parris recently wrote, *“We are not hugely interested in constitutions. That’s why we don’t have one.”What is this poison that drips incessantly into the public veins? John Adams, a U.S. President and drafter of the American Constitution, called the English Constitution “the most stupendous fabric of human invention”* in all history. The Guardian published an article by George Monbiot in January claiming we had no constitution: "Not having a written constitution allowed Blair and his advisers to go to war without reference to parliament or the public." Margaret Becket who is an expert on constitutional law, wrote back: What you have stated above, the claim we that we do not have a 'written constitution', is misleading, since technically it means we do not have a codified constitution. Perhaps you would like to point out to us where it is not codified? We have observed that Magna Carta, the Petition of Right, the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement, these are indeed codified. The claim that we do not have a written constitution is usually made in comparison of the codification of the American constitution, which is Masonic, and was made at one time. But it should be born in mind that the claim that we in Britain do not have a constitution is used as propaganda formulated against the Rights of the People and in so doing is taking us down the path of tyranny, as made clear by Tom Paine when he said ‘…the constitution was made for the people and not government’. For the record; we the People of Britain do indeed have a constitution and in accordance with it’s statues, the matter of going to war lies with the monarch NOT Parliament! We in Britain have a republic in which the Peoples’ power (the ‘prerogative’) is held by the monarch for their life-time. Parliament does not hold that power, further more an Oath of Allegiance has to be taken by anyone who wishes to take a seat in Parliament, this incorporates the laws of our land. Mr Monboit’s article shows a lack of constitutional grasp by writing as he has - by referring to a "unwritten constitution" and calling it a "gentleman's agreement", and by not correcting such misinformation. It is this ignorance that has been deliberately propagated amongst the people of this nation which has effectively so far, allowed Blair to act as a dictator. What Mr Monbiot has suggested in his article about the constitutional reform, is too weak and incorrect, because it is clear he does not seem to realise what the government is proposing do to our enshrined laws and in so doing, you as a paper, are supporting the uprising of treasonable power. The Fabian strategy is globalisation, Iraq and Afghanistan wars are merely part of this plan to which the People of Britain and other countries come a very poor second. It should be noted that Blair was head of the Fabian’s before becoming leader of the Labour party. Last year 2007, we in Britain supposedly celebrated the end of slavery which often involved the use of physical chains and forced labour, now the dynamics of the game have changed and far from been abolished there is evidence that our parliamentarians have put the people of this nation even more deeply into the slavery into the European Union with its ever mounting tyrannical laws and controls including the loss of our inalienable rights, not least Habeas Corpus. Furthermore, there is ample evidence from government documents that Edward Heath and others committed treason in taking us as a nation into the European Union. See http://tinyurl.com/2pfmcd We look forward to hearing from you and trust you will correct this information in your newspaper and thus provide your readers with the truth of our very real 'written constitution'. Yours Sincerely Elizabeth Beckett http://www.namastepublishing.co.uk/Elizabeth%20Beckett%20-%20News%20Black%20Out Last edited by aarable; 23-03-2008 at 08:37 PM.