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aarable · 18-03-2008, 09:54 PM

'This idea is as pointless as a blunt pencil.'

Quite right, how about:

Recent letter’s columns have been mainly dedicated to stating the obvious, that voting UKIP would cause the Conservatives to lose seats and maybe the election.

Christina Speight, in urging a vote for the Conservatives, is realistic enough to acknowledge that this course, even if it returned a Conservative government, offers but ‘faint hope’ 9of halting the integration process), let alone recovering lost sovereignty and democracy.

I have letters from several MPs, including David Cameron and William Hague on the subject of a retrospective referendum on the Lisbon Treaty should their party gain power. Although words of comfort are offered, there’s no guarantee that such a referendum would be held – this is consistent with their public statements. I don’t believe for a moment this position will change.

The blindingly obvious has to be recognized, that Conservatives have whipped all treaties and acts through parliament when in government, as have Labour – there is but a cigarette paper’s difference between the two on Europe. Successful betting at the races is all about studying form. On this score, the Conservatives are no hopers. So what’s to do?

There is a third option not involving the hope of a UKIP government, and that is to initiate a Conservative split. A fourth election defeat would surely lead to that. We could then expect the see a true and strong Conservative party emerge, probably through merger with UKIP. It would be dedicated to negotiating an arrangement that people thought they had voted for in 1975.

That should be the strategy.

18-03-2008, 09:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
aarable Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 109	Best Strategy is cause a split - see my letter in Eurofacts 'This idea is as pointless as a blunt pencil.' Quite right, how about: Recent letter’s columns have been mainly dedicated to stating the obvious, that voting UKIP would cause the Conservatives to lose seats and maybe the election. Christina Speight, in urging a vote for the Conservatives, is realistic enough to acknowledge that this course, even if it returned a Conservative government, offers but ‘faint hope’ 9of halting the integration process), let alone recovering lost sovereignty and democracy. I have letters from several MPs, including David Cameron and William Hague on the subject of a retrospective referendum on the Lisbon Treaty should their party gain power. Although words of comfort are offered, there’s no guarantee that such a referendum would be held – this is consistent with their public statements. I don’t believe for a moment this position will change. The blindingly obvious has to be recognized, that Conservatives have whipped all treaties and acts through parliament when in government, as have Labour – there is but a cigarette paper’s difference between the two on Europe. Successful betting at the races is all about studying form. On this score, the Conservatives are no hopers. So what’s to do? There is a third option not involving the hope of a UKIP government, and that is to initiate a Conservative split. A fourth election defeat would surely lead to that. We could then expect the see a true and strong Conservative party emerge, probably through merger with UKIP. It would be dedicated to negotiating an arrangement that people thought they had voted for in 1975. That should be the strategy. Last edited by aarable; 18-03-2008 at 09:56 PM.