Originally Posted by arden forester

I'm pro-europe (as if anyone is anti-europe!) and opposed to the European Union, as it has emerged! (I voted No in Wilson's referendum!) My children are exactly the same as him (Clegg). Half-Dutch, the Dutch bit being from a Dutch mother. I can be against the centralising, money-wasting, lying, self-serving, poncing bureaucratic outfit that lives and gorges in the Brussels offices that make up some of this beast's empire, but I am not against the people of other European countries.