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Old 02-03-2008, 02:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just want to say first that I'm not here to flame or troll these boards and that I'm generally interested at seeing and understanding the views of Eurosceptics, I'm not here to create any arguments .

Eurosceptic Atlanticist:
- True, can't really argue with that point. However, without being in the EU we won't have access to that free market.

- Again, I agree, but creating a deterrent against war was one of the main reasons for the creation of the coal and steel agreement which was a direct forerunner of the EU.

- I agree, and all those things are great and I hope they stay that way. But as countries like India and China develop our voice might be drowned out, the EU helps to ensure that won't happen.

- You could make a similar argument against any federalised system. Say people from Sussex pay (complete guesswork here) £4000000 in taxes every year, but the government only spends £3000000 in the county during the same year. Whereas say people from Kent pay the same in taxes but the government spends £5000000 on the county, as it's schools are lacking and it needs new hospitals. It's just the way the world works.

- Without Factortame, it wouldn't have any power which would destroy the entire point of it.


Firefly:

In response to the jobs remark; of course everything has a down side and britons losing their job to eastern europeans is obviously quite tragic but it cannot be helped. I'll again use my analogy from above, if a million people from Sussex decided they wanted to move north up to Yorkshire and were prepared to work for less then there's not much people from Yorkshire can do about it. That's the negative, there's also the positive that it fuels the economy. As with everything, there are positives and negatives it's about finding a balance between the two.
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