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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 575
Party: Free England Party
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Originally Posted by Kentishman
We only need to wait until 1 May 2008, to determine the relative strengths of the messages
United Kingdome Independence Party (UKIP)
British National Party (BNP)
English Democrats
To further respond to Richard the Lionhearts post, then I have already stated that many meetings have occurred with a complete list of political parties, just because the English Democrats have differrent views to these parties, does not stop dialogue occurring, the timings of any meetings were either way before any "Toys out the Pram actions by Richard" or way after, where any particular meeting caused Richard the Lion Heart any particular problem, his personal views were taken into account.
The fact that he continues to expect to have an influence on the day to day running of the English Democrats, when he has resigned as an officer, and a member, and now set up his own Free Party, shows how "confused" Richard the LionHeart is.
Richard's Free Party to date have recieved ZERO votes.
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It should be duly note AGAIN by English nationalists that Kentishman has yet again refused to refer to our party as the Free ENGLAND party, he seems to conveniently forget that we have the word "ENGLAND" in our title. Even someone as stupid as you must realise that to get votes, you have to stand in an election. As we have just registered and had no elections to stand in, surely it must have occurred to you, that it's impossible to get any votes!
I notice that you were absent from the J4E demo last week. This is in addition to your absence from the J4E march last May 1st ,and also the last "mass" demo outside parliament, both events which I attended. Not good is it, from an alleged "English nationalist".
Your meeting with the England First Party is interesting. I offer the following for readers to peruse, and let them make up their minds about the unionist English Democrats. This posting was from another forum.
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Below you will see part of an article on the English Democrats site and a bit of info about the person who wrote it is this the kind of person you really want representing English Nationalism if it is you will lose more voters than you will gain and totally alienate ethnic minorities in England
If English Nationalism is ever to be anything but on the fringes of politics you have to start by kicking out the racists and bigots that are infiltrating not just this forum but the cause it's self
Article on English Democrats Web site
Why not British Nationalism; why not White Nationalism? After all, these are the two main threads of Nationalism (in Britain, at least), and have been since at least the 1970's. English Nationalism is a new kid on the block, and to be anything other than a passing fad or a simple, and unthinking, reaction to the increasingly negative aspects of certain parts of the British Nationalist scene (which would mainly be a reaction against the increasingly peculiar activities of the leadership junta of the British National Party), then English Nationalism has to be able to justify its unique position on the political stage.
As a convert from White Nationalism to British Nationalism and finally to English Nationalism I have been through the entire spectrum of modern race-centred Nationalist politics within the UK. As such, and as I have been an organiser and prospective electoral candidate within each group, I feel that my opinions on the matter are worth consideration. Whether or not you agree with them is another matter entirely!
Firstly, White Nationalism. This is, I believe, an ideal, but one which is, ultimately, self-destructive. To unite all the myriad strands of Nationalism into one pan-European model simply cannot work in practice. First of all, what exactly is White Nationalism? A traditional German National Socialist is unlikely to accept Slavic (Polish or Russian, say) Nationalism as equal to their German-based Nationalism. Striking a balance between the various strands of Irish and Ulster Nationalisms would be a nightmare in itself, and how would you square English and British Nationalism within a single political framework? To be truly pan-European, the peoples of Europe, and those of European descent, would either have to accept a new kind of Nationalism that rejected, even denied, their cultural roots (something which is the complete opposite of what I consider to be Nationalism), or else these varied cultures would need to be preserved, leading to stagnation if they are kept alive artificially and if conflicts between the cultures are regulated, or resulting in the obvious collapse of the Aryan Super State if the conflicts are allowed to continue. White Nationalism, in my view, can only truly apply as a term to describe a Pan-Aryan voluntary union of separate and independent nation-states
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here is a bit of Background about the Man who wrote the article in the post Above
The Ku Klux Klan moved its area of activity from the provinces to London and began a recruitment campaign under its new leader Alan Winder.
and this
In mid-1997 British imitators of the US white-supremacist Ku Klux Klan (KKK, see United States) renewed their attempt to establish the KKK in the UK by moving their area of activity from the Midlands to London where they began a desultory and ultimately unsuccessful recruitment campaign under their new leader Alan Winder, supported by several BNP activists. In the summer of 1997 Winder sent a letter to members and supporters of the various Klan groups of the past, informing them that he was now in charge of the Invisible Empire, United Klans of Europe (IEUKE). He stated that he intended to make the IEUKE a success: 'nothing short of our being the leading group throughout Europe for the fight for the preservation of our race and community and the exile of the Jewish and mud races'
and this
Alan Winder, long time fascist and BNP Eastbourne
organiser, works as a guard for South Central Rail at
Eastbourne. Just as directed by the BNP leadership he has
joined the union – in this case the TSSA (Transport and
Salaried Staff Association) – the white collar rail union.
Winder has been around the extreme right for many years
– since the early 180’s – and as a teenager was a British
Movement activist who liked his paramilitary dress. In 1997
he and Bill Binding, a BNP parliamentary candidate set up a
bank account for a national Ku Klux Klan organisation.
But at the first meeting they were photographed by Sunday
Mirror journalists acting on Searchlight information. So it all
turned into a fiasco.
He then lost his job at the Inland Revenue Valuation Office
where he had previously been a member of the union, the
Inland Revenue Staff Federation.
He was accused of passing internal documents to Steve Sargent and David Myatt the leaders of the National Socialist Movement. Some of this information about trade unionists who he worked with
appeared on ‘Stormer’ hit lists.
Two of his workmates were put on the hit list because they were anti racist. Not only is Winder a member of the TSSA but he is taking
advantage of what the union has to offer.
We understand he was nominated by his union to complete a TUC basic skills course at South Downs College in Lewes and has applied to become a TUC trainer. We wonder what kind of training he
could be thinking of.
If his past history is anything to go by trade unionists and
the TUC should give him a wide berth and send him packing.
Searchlight is informed that TSSA are investigating the
situation. Lets hope they expel him – people like Winder
have no place in our trade unions.
How on earth could the English Democrat's let such a person JOIN
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The fact is, you admitted you met with the far right England First Party. Then we see this article. What is your REAL agenda?
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