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Old 24-02-2008, 07:35 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kentishman View Post
I've met with many political parties as is my remit over the past 4 years, part of our strategy is to increase the size of our party by merger, and to form constuctive alliances, the NC is of course Democratically elected to run the English Democrats party and the NC determines strategy.

Since 2003 informal or formal meetings have occurred with at least 14 registered political parties that would have at least one policy in common with the English Democrats:-

Namely

Liberal Party
UK Reform Party - (Merged with the English Democrats)
UKIP
Senior Citizens Party
Countryside Party
Greenhithe & Scanscombe Residents Assocaition
Veritas
Scottish National Party (SNP)
England First Party
English Progressive Party - (Merged with the English Democrats)
England's Parliament Party
English Independence Party
English Parliamentary party - (Merged with the English Democrats)
New England Party - (Merged with the English Democrats)

Some meetings have progressed into either merger or relations through the English Constitutional Convention, some meetings have simply confirmed views and parties have agreed to disagree and then parted.

Resigning when you do not understand the full picture, is a sign of immaturity, it would appear that you throw your toys out of your pram, everytime something does not go your own way.

You appeared to have got a good group of people together in Hertfordshire three years ago, yet you threw it away, over a meeting you had pre-judged before it occured, and due to your actions did not occur - how can such actions be constuctive for the English Movement, with hindsight, was it worth destroying what you had helped to create in Hetfordshire.

I believe that if you meet with people, then you can find out exactly where they are coming from, and determine if there are things in common or not, you were personally invited to three successive NC meetings to discuss your enthusiams for an policy of English Independence, yet you have never explained why you did not attend.

Web Sites and Internet Forums do not always present the whole truth about people, it's people in this world that make things happen by talking face to face with other people.

I joined the English Democrats in 2003 following the Merger of about 5 Small English Parties in 2002 to form the English Democrats - the English National Party was one of these small parties I understand.

The new Manifesto for the new party - The English Democrats was in 2002 agreed between all of the parties present (I understand).

The basic message was that of a mission statement to achieve an English Parliament as the prime objective of the new party - The English Democrats, it was not until 2005 that the membership voted to confirm the position of an English Parliament within a Federal UK with fiscal automony for England - until this time it was not clear how the English Parliament would be achieved.

Each policy change for the English Democrats is achieved by the General Membership voting Democratically on each policy ammendment or change at a General meeting, either in person or by proxy.

It sounds like your new party will simply start with YOUR vision of how things are to be done, no doubt if your membership voted against YOUR vision then you would once again, "throw your toys out the pram", or no doubt expell them from your party, as you don't seem to have any respect for democracy, or indeed officers of a party democratically appointed by the membership maybe your new party, should have been called the "do as I say party"

After working so hard to merge English Parties into one force over the past 5 years, it is naturally disappointing that you have taken the actions you have.

The idea that you will once again be getting off your chair by your computer, and putting "English" leaflets through letter boxes has to be welcomed, as this action certainly cannot do any harm to the English Movement.

If you come out with some excuse as to why you will not be standing for election, you will of course be a laughing stock for the whole English Movement, I hope we will not be laughing at you, hopefully we will be congratulating you once again for hopefully a credible result in Hertfordshire.

16.8% is the benchmark set last night by the English Democrats in a first past the post election - I suggest you start leafletting now under your own colours if you intend to surpass this.

At a local level the only way of getting party name recognition is regular and repeated leafletting. Leafletting an average ward of 4,000 votes by yourself is quite time consuming, and you will need to repeat the process 4 or 5 times between now and 1 May 2008 if you wish to get a good result.

If you then have time you need to do some door to door canvassing, this is even more time consuming.

You will also have to take out the time to design 4 or 5 leaflets and of course pay for them to get printed.

It's quite a task you have set yourself !
Points:

1. You confirm you DID meet with the England First Party despite your pledge you wouldn't.

2. You also confirm that the merging of parties and agreed manifesto was done by the parties present. As I asked, was this done with the consent of the membership?

Your post illustrates why there is such low voter turn out these days and why political parties and politicians are so mistrusted. You gave us your word you wouldn't meet with them but you did. If party members cannot trust you, why should the electorate?
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