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Old 13-02-2008, 06:00 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Matt Davies is not giving any kind of an accurate picture of the BNP as it is today because he works off anti-fascist literature that is as outdated as the image of the BNP supporter or member. To know the rank and file and to know why they join or support means you actually have to know them. If not, the far left will have to be your source material.

The articles and news on these sites are useful in that they point out things the BNP inner circle keep from the rank and file, but the anti-fascists shoot themselves in the foot by returning to their habitual hatred of everything one degree off right of centre and they have a tendency to make things up, lie outright and twist material to either make it suit their opinion or embellish a story. They are much the same as the gutter press. Hey, they are the gutter press, they are the political gutter press. Nevertheless they have highlighted some very concerning aspects of the party and this is what has kept many from joining and caused many to leave.

There is also a heavy far right antagonism to nationalist groups and patriotic groups who do not have any interest in the nazis or national socialism from a nazi perspective. This is where Matt Davies is getting it right, but he is talking about this lot, not the rank and file of any right wing group. There is a poisonous faction, worldwide, of neo nazi, white supremacist/white nationalist orientation that trolls its way through almost every group and that seems placed inside groups to deter anyone (or outright attack them and threaten them) from allowing an ordinary right wing patriotism or healthy nationalism to flourish, and sometimes even to germinate.

I speak from experience. I have been viciously attacked by various members of this faction. And, yes, they are neo nazis, they are white supremacists, they are thugs, they are pigs, they are louts and they are ready and willing to threaten your life if need be. I have had pictures of pornography used against me, and I have had a picture of a gun barrel pointed at me for not being a racist neo nazi. I have been attacked by trolls, insulted by psychotic nutcases and stalked and harassed. And so have many others. But because no one has any time for patriots these things are never brought to book. You have to just learn how to deal with them on your own and the situation can be so insecure and these people can be so insidiously entrenched in every group and party that an atmosphere of distrust pervades the scene and no one trusts anyone else. They can't afford to. There is always a little nazi troll waiting to bite your arm off or assassinate your character so you won't be able to post anymore, or work anywhere anymore, or you will get dragged through the press and used as an example of evil. (They often turn turtle and sell their info to the left.)

This has psychologically damaged many working class people and the others have retreated to join less volatile groups or support patriotism from afar.

When people who are members of the BNP (or any other right wing group) are beaten up, have threatening letters or e-mails sent to them, get the Searchlight treatment, are falsely accused, etc they have no recourse to the law because the law and society today is part of the left wing machine that doesn't care so much about justice as it does about enforcing its own ideology through the law. Big Brother isn't interested if your home is broken into and your girlfriend is threatened by neo nazi thugs. Big Brother isn't interested if you're afraid for your children because the far left has targeted you. Big Brother is also inconspicuous to the ordinary person in the street - until something happens, like the despicable treatment of Tony Martin, who was sentenced for defending himself against a gang of marauding travellers. Then had to have his early life events paraded through the courts as part of his seeming evil in having shot at his tormentors and killed one of them. The surviving one actually tried to sue Mr Martin because the event had upset his sex life. It was a vicious and humiliating example of what has happened to "justice" in Britain under the left. I remember I had a "free Tony Martin" image on my web site at the time. He came from my ancestral county and I felt especially angry about what happened to him. So did Ross Parker, slaughtered in cold blood by a gang of yobs on his way home from work. Also from Norfolk.

These incidents made people very angry and they were played down by the media (with assurances that every area was just one big thriving happy family) and the response to them was described as fascist. That was long ago and look how much blood has flowed under the bridge since then and still these strident accusations of fascist and racist and neo nazi rent the air every time someone complains about anything at all that doesn't fit the Social Democracy plan for the world. Tony Blair had this global plan firmly in mind which is why he so gleefully sent Britain into the Iraq war. It was to entrench a global social democracy attached to American imperialism and had nothing to do with non-existent weapons of mass destruction. If he needed to use Muslims he did, both in a negative and a positive way. No one stopped him and now he is on his way to EU and lecture circuit glory, through the Catholic Church.

Truth is indeed stranger than fiction. And still no one is particularly concerned and everyone is still content to make those calls of fascist and neo nazi against ordinary people who are up to their necks in trouble and can't find a soul to listen to their story who isn't going to humiliate their cause.

Ten years ago, even five years ago, people had nowhere else to go to have their say but far right forums. So that is where they went and dodged the missiles from the nazis if they had to. They were that worried about their future and that rejected by their own government, press and population. Theirs was a lonely trail and attacking them and humiliating them as "chavs" hasn't helped their attitude. They have become disenchanted and some have been hardened and changed in the furnace of antagonism.

But out of evil comes good because what was at first a radical and revolutionary movement with its fair share of lunatics and trolls, criminals and opportunists, has evolved and weathered into a nationalist and patriotic movement that has a great opportunity to weld itself into a powerful lobby for the independence and sovereignty of nations.

I personally have reservations about certain things and will not accept certain things and so I have left off my lone campaigning and dogfighting and support and found a place to grow. That place, for me, is the English independence movement. If I were Scots it would be further north. If Welsh, further west. The Irish have never been better. After all the years of demeaning second class status they have become a nation in their own right and they are booming. Good for them. For once, it's great to be Irish. I hope some day it will also be great to be Welsh and great to be Scots and great to be English.

No more wars against kindred nations. No more wars. A new world order. I had never heard of the conspiracy theory version of the New World Order, I had no idea there were real neo nazis flourishing everywhere, especially in America. I tripped and bashed my head open on several unexpected rocks. But, that is what makes a life and that is what makes a pathway to whatever may come of the efforts of those who stuck it out. And they did, and they still do.

I believe in the modernization efforts of the breakaway group of the BNP, but I fear they will already have been infiltrated by those same nazis and related groups who used to plague the original National Front and BNP. They may have done enough damage to necessitate fresh starts. Adrian Davies has experience of this and so when he says there are certain problems he knows what they are, who they are, where they are and why they may cause things to stagnate, break apart constantly or die.

If there's any lesson or useful info in this, Mr Constantine, I hope you find it in the stories of people (and there are many) who may feel they would like to come forward, this time without fear, and tell it like it is. They are not monsters, they are compatriots and fellow men and women. I would ask the left to try to treat them as such. because that old time degradation is ebbing a way and a new wave is lapping the shores of the Mother Countries. Let it do its job. It is a good wave and it is building all over the world from Palestine to Zimbabwe. People are laying down their weapons and taking stock of the carnage and realising that there must be a better way. There is. It isn't in hugging everyone with a pulse. It is in rediscovering our true diversity and the right to express this through ethnic and cultural means and especially politically. It isn't a form of evil, it is a positive natural process and it is only when this breaks down or is threatened that things go wrong and people start to hurt one another because they no longer understand or care about the subtle behavioural aspects of distance and respect that keep animal groups in the wild from making themselves extinct.

If there is any kind of God it will be found in nature and not in any human construction of "society" and "politics" and the "social justice" that is the fruit of Utopian romanticism and not a reflection of reality and the life world. In time, a balance will assert itself and this can be achieved sooner rather than later if people stop attacking one another and start talking to one another instead.

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