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Old 12-02-2008, 12:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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LIHO vs MIHO vs Incompetence

None very palatable.

I have to confess, I have to stop my utter distrust of government (thanks to governments being proven to be full of liars and scumbags for most of human history) bluring my judgement on this one.

Just as the MSM sickens me with its bias and obvious manipulation, I see the same sort of thing from the "alternate media" too. They play them at their own game sometimes, using fear of the unknown to push their beleifs and ergo agenda on everyone else.

Sorry, but just as it bamboozles me how closed some peoples minds seem to be on this issue in favour of the official version (IE the one handed to us by our wholesome government and MSM), I also see worrying signs from the other side too. Sorry youcanhandle the truth, but you seem like an Alex Jones "zombie" or "sheep" to me. Instead of following the official line, you seem to be happy to blindly follow the AJ line instead.

I feel a lot of empathy with what AJ and by proxy you say. I think he hits on a lot of issues that need further looking at. However, there is a lot of stating things as fact, that clearly aren't fact, just hypothesis. I understand the urge to balance the official propaganda, but you can look as biased as them at the end of the day, just at the other end of the spectrum.

Thus I have tried to blot out what both sides say on this issue and look at the video and hard facts available.

Doing that, for the main towers, it was strange, but they were big strange buildings and the way they came down was weird. There is a lot of dubiousness and strange questions about them, but at the end of the day, I haven't seen any solid 100% proof to say they were blown up.

That doesn't mean they weren't.

WTC7 on the otherhand is the one that troubles me. Even forgetting about Silversteins dealings, what the building was used for, BBC and CNN reporting it collapsing in advance and all the other odd stuff that happened at the time, just the plain physics of it don't compute for me.

Even if the building was a raging inferno (which it never was compared to other major fires that have happened), even if a massive chunk was taken out of it (which depends on your definition of massive), there simply has not been a decent explanation for the way that building fell. To bring a building down that cleanly, takes serious work normally. Making sure all the main supports fail at the same time and that other pieces collapse neatly and in total symmetry, would take real expertise.

The building does seem to have been "pulled". The fact the MSM have done all in their power not to show this and even talk about it, is worrying for me. The MSM is biased and controlled, simply by controlling the news at source. This is how the MSM managed to almost blot out Ron Paul worldwide, even though he had amazing money support, numbers at rallies and even the odd good result (winning Washington and Alaska for instance).

That is what bothers me. It is a smoking gun, to suggest the official story isn't reliable. If the official story isn't reliable, then what is?
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