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Old 05-02-2008, 09:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
Clippo
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In my earlier post I asked:-
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Tell us how YOU propose to combat the tax-hiking foreign powers? (Notice the ‘YOU’ and that I didn’t specify AGW tax hiking)
In reply Rjt wrote:-
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I am not blaming it all on the EU but you will never get any response to tackle the problems you say need addressing if we remain in it. Unless of course you favour ecnomically backward and undemocratic soulutions of course.
Okay, what systems would you put into place to combat GW & how would you persuade every citizen to comply.
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Really you should be keener on leaving the EU than me.
Why, & how can you compare keen-ness?
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How do you hope to see the issues you say motivate you to vote in a general election such as health and education sorted out whilst we reamin in an ecnomic straightjacket.
I thought that the UK economy has consistently been only 2nd to Germany in the EU. Hasn’t seemed to be a very good straightjacket to me. Give me some facts & figures to support your contentions.
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How to get out of the EU has been dealt with at depth in other threads if you bothered to venture out from under your safety net more often.
Perhaps I have ventured more often that you think. All I’ve seen is whingeing about how bad the EU is and how we must get out. And always it is expecting someone else to do it for you. And then there’s the dog/master-like devotion to anti-EU parties such as UKIP who have achieve ZILCH, or the waffle of Christopher Booker who has practically achieved ZILCH.

I asked YOU what YOU would do to combat the EU – how do you propose to get elected or start & maintain an anti EU crusade ?.

You (& Britannist) are bigger fools that you portray yourselves to be (if that’s possible) if you think your constant whingeing and critical innuendo are going to advance the EU cause by even a millimetre.

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One thing that will not aid our leaving is if people who claim to be against it like you do vote for the three main partys, they are a coalition seeking to extingush democracy, but that is a concept you dont care much about.
You really don’t have any concept of how wrong you are on this point.

The reality, rjt is that in order to leave the EU the UK needs a majority of MPs in Westminster to start this process. There is no way, imo, any of the minor parties (or even an alliance of anti EU parties) will get into power (or even get 1 MP) on the ant-EU issue. So, therefore you have to vote for the party which you think will deliver the promise. Even if a vote is allowed on the new ‘constitution’, and it is rejected, that’s still a million miles away from tearing up all the previous treaties.
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