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Old 30-01-2008, 11:38 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Robin View Post
Are you Polish ?
No, Welsh.

I didn't hear a Pole whining that he needs the money to support his family, and that is aside from the point in any case. If a Pole said his wages were too low because he needed to feed his family, my attitude would be the same.
Poles asking for benefits? Now that is an outrage. I wouldn't have socialism for immigrants any more than I would have it for natives.
Your point about having a family before open borders doesn't mean much. So the market has changed, adapt or lose, that is the nature of the market.

We've moved on? Certainly housing is easier to get now, but if by "moved on" you mean demanding that other people pay more than your worth, that isn't progress. If you are not getting paid enough, then you have not made yourself valuable enough. Nobody has the right to a house at all, but one does have the rights to the fruit of their labour.

Yes, it is of course the money that is appreciated, which is a perfectly just and rational motive.

Ranter:

I didn't mean "your" personally, it was the infamous "you" that has many rants addressed at him!

I don't support socialism (AKA, the transfer of wealth from the moral to the immoral) is a stupid comment? Or I don't believe you are entitled to anything you didn't acquire through mutual contract?

Unless, of course, there is no dole
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